Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Jan 2013 14:53 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And so this situation is starting to get ridiculous - and consumers are, as usual, caught in the middle of it all. Google has just blocked Windows Phone devices from accessing Google Maps on their phones. In addition, it also seems Windows Phone users are now restricted to the basic HTML version of the mobile GMail website. While understandable from a defensive perspective - Microsoft's extortion scheme targeting Android device makers and all that - it's still a massive dick move that only hurts consumers. Update: the media attention has worked - Google is backpedalling, and will remove the redirect. "We periodically test Google Maps compatibility with mobile browsers to make sure we deliver the best experience for those users. In our last test, IE mobile still did not offer a good maps experience with no ability to pan or zoom and perform basic map functionality. As a result, we chose to continue to redirect IE mobile users to Google.com where they could at least make local searches. The Firefox mobile browser did offer a somewhat better user experience and that’s why there is no redirect for those users. Recent improvements to IE mobile and Google Maps now deliver a better experience and we are currently working to remove the redirect. We will continue to test Google Maps compatibility with other mobile browsers to ensure the best possible experience for users."
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JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

it's their responsibility to deliver a working firmware

But they are delivering working firmware, it's just they are delivering firmware that works only with Windows.

so it's microsofts fault that stores don't want to stock laptops without windows?

No, they are giving higher discounts to OEMs that don't ship other OS'es. You know why these OEMs don't ship Linux or noOS versions of their top selling devices? Because they have accountants...

the result was that everybody bought the windows-edition if they had the choice.

Oh... You mean that the Linux netbooks just disappeared from the shelves as soon as WinXP devices hit the shelves?

please remember that odf didn't even support spreadsheets at the time when ms pushed for OOXML.

And the first edition of OOXML was a pile of crap, worse than ODF. In addition to MS Office 2007 not supporting OOXML outright.

mono is open source, silverlight is an alternative to flash (very open ), and so on

If you say so...

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

No, they are giving higher discounts to OEMs that don't ship other OS'es.


It's not wrong to do that, though.

You know why these OEMs don't ship Linux or noOS versions of their top selling devices? Because they have accountants...


It's because OEMs get to pre-load all sorts of stuff on the Windows-based computers. There is nothing to pre-load on Linux-machines except the OS itself, so of course the OEMs will avoid those because there's no kick-back money to be had. Also yes, there are accountants who realize that Linux-based computers cost more than the Windows-ones and therefore Average Joe won't buy them.

Blaming Microsoft for this is totally disingenuous. If you want to play the blame-game then point the finger at OEMs and the general populace.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

It's not wrong to do that, though.

With Windows being the dominant platform, having a worse deal from Microsoft can sink a company. That's not a good thing to have. Google is in the same position as Microsoft.

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smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

No, they are giving higher discounts to OEMs that don't ship other OS'es. You know why these OEMs don't ship Linux or noOS versions of their top selling devices? Because they have accountants...


but OEMs like dell, lenovo, hp and others are selling laptops without a microsoft-os
so why aren't you buying one?

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Let me check... Lenovo's online store has no OS free laptop, HPs as well, Dell has one. Now you were saying?

I'm buying the hardware that I need(an i7 machine with loads of RAM - MBP or Lenovo high-end TP) that don't include the option of not having Windows on it.

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