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OSNews, Generic OSes The mostly-morubund Hurd project is well known for what it's not: the kernel at the heart of the GNU/Linux system. But there's a long and interesting story about what it could have been, too. From Linux User magazine: "The design of the Hurd was an attempt to embody the spirit and promise of the free software movement in code." Those are mighty ambitions, and this story is as much about competing visions as competing kernels. Says Thomas Bushnell: "My first choice was to take the BSD 4.4-Lite release and make a kernel. I knew the code, I knew how to do it. It is now perfectly obvious to me that this would have succeeded splendidly and the world would be a very different place today." This is a well-written and fascinating read.
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by Alfman on Tue 8th Jan 2013 15:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Re:"
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

Laurence,

"Oh I know how and why GNU/Linux came about and I'm well versed on the workings of Linux. And I do fully agree with the point you're making, but sadly that's all irrelevant as it's a term GNU/Linux is now out there and recognised."


Meh, I benefit from both and I couldn't care less what people want to call it. It's rare that people cannot figure it out from the context. If non-gnu userspace linux kernel distros became widely popular, then there'd be a plausible case of ambiguity, but until then I don't care about pedantry.


"However most computer literate people know what a 'cloud' is."

I'm not convinced it means anything at all ;)
Seriously it's been used for SAAS, CPU Virtualization, outsourced file storage, web apps, and even for streaming music. It seems that anything running on the internet might be described as "running in the cloud". Hey folks, now you can talk to your friends in the cloud - it's called IRC. It's all marketing, IBM has been pioneering "clouds" for decades.

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by Laurence on Tue 8th Jan 2013 15:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Re:"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Seriously it's been used for SAAS, CPU Virtualization, outsourced file storage, web apps, and even for streaming music. It seems that anything running on the internet might be described as "running in the cloud". Hey folks, now you can talk to your friends in the cloud - it's called IRC. It's all marketing, IBM has been pioneering "clouds" for decades.

That was largely my point about TSS ;)


Meh, I benefit from both and I couldn't care less what people want to call it. It's rare that people cannot figure it out from the context. If non-gnu userspace linux kernel distros became widely popular, then there'd be a plausible case of ambiguity, but until then I don't care about pedantry.

Fair point. I like that attitude.

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by Alfman on Tue 8th Jan 2013 15:49 in reply to "RE[5]: Re:"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Laurence,

"That was largely my point about TSS"

Haha, I'm afraid that I didn't know what that meant.

Duck duck go helpfully suggested these definitions:

Toxic shock syndrome (fatal illness)
Total suspended solids (fluids)
Total sum of squares (mathematics)
Time Sharing System
Task State Segment
Transcription start site (RNA)
Tromsø Satellite Station


By the process of elimination, I see what you mean about facebook being a reimagination of Toxic shock syndrome ;)

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by zima on Sat 12th Jan 2013 19:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Re:"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

"However most computer literate people know what a 'cloud' is."
I'm not convinced it means anything at all ;)
Seriously it's been used for SAAS, CPU Virtualization, outsourced file storage, web apps, and even for streaming music. It seems that anything running on the internet might be described as "running in the cloud". Hey folks, now you can talk to your friends in the cloud - it's called IRC. It's all marketing, IBM has been pioneering "clouds" for decades.

I often hope that we, ~geeks, would get together and popularise another term: "fog". Seems kinda more apt ;)

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