Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jan 2013 23:27 UTC
Windows So, a rudimentary jailbreak for Windows RT made its way onto the web these past few days. Open source applications were ported right away, and it was confirmed that Windows RT is the full Windows - it's exactly the same as regular Windows, except that it runs on ARM. Microsoft responded to the jailbreak as well.
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RE[2]: Comment by saso
by Sodki on Wed 9th Jan 2013 09:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by saso"
Sodki
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2005-11-10

"But if you're not going to be running existing Windows software, what exactly is the selling point of Windows then?


Well, I can think of several reasons:

1. Firstly, and most importantly; Microsoft Office. Corporate users live and breathe MS Office. And, while the full office suite isn't available yet on RT, it will be, and that's going to be a huge draw for lots of people.

And no, OOo isn't a real substitute. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.
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I'll have to strongly disagree. Corporate users live and breathe a subset of MS Office, which for the most part is completely replaceable by OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice. I'm not saying that is always the case, of course, but I have personally seen it done many times with zero training. It worked fine and it costed nothing. It is wrong to assume people specifically need MS Office for their office computing needs.

Besides, corporate users need to use more corporate products besides MS Office and those do not work in Windows RT, so promoting it is a moot point.

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RE[3]: Comment by saso
by HappyGod on Wed 9th Jan 2013 11:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by saso"
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2005-10-19

I'll have to strongly disagree. Corporate users live and breathe a subset of MS Office, which for the most part is completely replaceable by OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice. I'm not saying that is always the case, of course, but I have personally seen it done many times with zero training. It worked fine and it costed nothing. It is wrong to assume people specifically need MS Office for their office computing needs.


It's completely replaceable if you're just talking about writing documents or spreadsheets. But, of course, no companies do just that, so it isn't replaceable at all.

I have worked for loads of high profile companies and none, repeat none, would ever consider OOo in a million years. The main reasons are the massive IP investment they all have in MS Office.

For example the tight integration with TFS and Sharepoint that you don't get with OOo. And then there are the inevitable crap-tonne of Access and Excel VBA apps that run everything from timesheets to monitoring billion dollar LNG modules as I discovered in horror at Chevron.

It's not an option.

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RE[4]: Comment by saso
by Sodki on Wed 9th Jan 2013 11:26 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by saso"
Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

It's completely replaceable if you're just talking about writing documents or spreadsheets. But, of course, no companies do just that, so it isn't replaceable at all.

I have worked for loads of high profile companies and none, repeat none, would ever consider OOo in a million years. The main reasons are the massive IP investment they all have in MS Office.

For example the tight integration with TFS and Sharepoint that you don't get with OOo. And then there are the inevitable crap-tonne of Access and Excel VBA apps that run everything from timesheets to monitoring billion dollar LNG modules as I discovered in horror at Chevron.

It's not an option.


It's always an option. An option that can be shot down, of course.

You are making a generalization. For every example of a company that cannot change, I can give you an example of a company that can and did change. I know the corporate world, I'm not saying that MS Office is always replaceable - it's not -, but there are many, many cases where it is. And sometimes it's not even necessary to migrate an entire company, just some departments.

OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice also have other problems in the corporate wold, like the lack of MSIs and Group Policy integration.

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