Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jan 2013 23:45 UTC
Games The Verge got to interview Valve's CEO, Gabe Newell, and the priceless quotes are just flying left and right. "We'll come out with our own and we'll sell it to consumers by ourselves. That'll be a Linux box, [and] if you want to install Windows you can. We're not going to make it hard. This is not some locked box by any stretch of the imagination." Others will be making Steambox devices too. Also: "Windows 8 was like this giant sadness. It just hurts everybody in the PC business. [...] When I started using it I was like 'oh my god...' I find [Windows 8] unusable." This last point is something I agree with vehemently. Can't comment on Windows 8 on tablets, but on regular PCs it's a schizophrenic, unusable clusterduck. It got me to switch back to Mac and use KDE (on my laptop). Let that sink in for a while.
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RE[2]: Comment
by Nelson on Wed 9th Jan 2013 09:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

I use Windows 8 without Start8 and don't have an issue.

Having Windows 8 on a tablet that lasts 10hours and can run legacy apps is pretty much everything I want in a device.

I'm sure others are happy too, I think there's a fair deal of myopia on OSNews about the target audience for Windows 8.

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RE[3]: Comment
by JAlexoid on Wed 9th Jan 2013 10:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Modern UI was designed to be "touched"; and it works well there. When you're without a touchscreen however...

Though, desktop in Win8 seems to be a bit more consistent than Win7.

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RE[4]: Comment
by Nelson on Wed 9th Jan 2013 17:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I think the criticism of it on a non-Touch device is severely overblown.

I dogfood Windows 8 full time on a developer machine, and as a developer, I can hardly think of any usecase that would require more productivity. I think it stresses it pretty well.

I just use the right tool for the job. For example, if I want a full screen browsing experience for content consumption, I'll dip into Metro IE.

If I need to view many tabs at a glance very quickly (say if I have 4-5 MSDN tabs open, a couple more tabs with some stats on app downloasds across WP/W8/PubCenter/AdMob/AdDuplex, and a couple instances of VS open) then I'll use Desktop IE.

Similarly if I'm doing hardcore file management I'll use explorer, but if I just want to browse for an image on my PC, or on SkyDrive or something I'll use the Search Charm with App Pickers.

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RE[3]: Comment
by Odisej on Wed 9th Jan 2013 12:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment"
Odisej Member since:
2006-05-11

Nelson, whenever I read your comment I get a feeling of you being some PR guy paid for participating in forums and answering criticism of any product by some major brand.

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RE[4]: Comment
by lucas_maximus on Wed 9th Jan 2013 14:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Some of us just don't think the criticisms of Windows 8 on the desktop is that valid.

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RE[4]: Comment
by Nelson on Wed 9th Jan 2013 17:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Nelson, whenever I read your comment I get a feeling of you being some PR guy paid for participating in forums and answering criticism of any product by some major brand.


Follow me on Twitter sometimes. Its not all roses when it comes to Microsoft and I criticize them, rather harshly at times.

There is just a tendency here on OSNews to argue the same things over and over, so you get thoughts of mine that haven't really changed because some people here are fixated on the same arguments.

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