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RE[7]: Comment by saso
by BluenoseJake on Wed 9th Jan 2013 10:27
in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by saso"
No window management = pile of shit. As simple as that. Unless Metro gets proper window management, it's nothing but a pointless toy on desktops/laptops.
I don't think that it is as simple as that. Most non technical users use one app at a time, maximized. They might have several apps open, but they switch back and forth, they don't do window management, they do application management.
We are not normal users. Don't get fooled into thinking that because we do something one way, that the entire computing base do things in the same way, if that was the case, the market would look entirely different.
RE[8]: Comment by saso
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 9th Jan 2013 10:38
in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by saso"
I don't think that it is as simple as that. Most non technical users use one app at a time, maximized. They might have several apps open, but they switch back and forth, they don't do window management, they do application management.
This is not my experience - at all. Virtually everyone I know uses multiple windows at least for some tasks, and even when they maximise, the taskbar still *delivers context*. In Metro, everything, even anchor elements like the task switcher, is hidden away, only available through clicks or gestures.
It adds a lot of overhead to everything, especially when you add desktop applications into the mix. You can't switch straight to your desktop application from a Metro application - no, you first have to bring up the application switcher, select the desktop, and only *then* can you select the proper application.
It's an overly complicated cumbersome mess.
I don't think the success of Metro hinges on your personal opinion of what it can/can't do.
Metro does include some Window Management in the form of Snapped, Filled, and Full View States and the combination between the two.
In addition, Metro is one of the few operating environments to allow you to do this on a Tablet, further enhancing productivity.
The goal of Windows 8 and of the Metro design language s fierce reduction of the unnecessary. Maybe you manage 10-20 windows at once, but Microsoft's own telemetry suggests its far from the norm.
I hope in the future Microsoft improves on this, and chances are they will, but for now it is far from the situation you try to paint.
RE[8]: Comment by saso
by tylerdurden on Wed 9th Jan 2013 18:30
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No window management = pile of shit. As simple as that. Unless Metro gets proper window management, it's nothing but a pointless toy on desktops/laptops.