Linked by the_randymon on Wed 9th Jan 2013 00:48 UTC
X11, Window Managers Lead developer for Compiz, Sam Spilsbury, says he sees little need to develop Compiz for Wayland due to the increasing fragmentation of the Linux ecosystem. Spilsbury writes "What does compiz actually provide to users of these systems? [...] None of this functionality that user wants really depends on our compositing engine. There's nothing so special about our compositing engine that gives it a reason to exist [...] This is the real practical toll of fragmentation amongst the Linux ecosystem. It's not just that there are multiple implementations of the wheel. There are multiple implementations of entire cars which do almost the same thing, but a little different from everyone else. Some say this is the free software's greatest strength. Now that I know the personal and technical toll of fragmentation, I see it as its greatest weakness."
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RE[3]: Weakness
by dsmogor on Wed 9th Jan 2013 14:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Weakness"
dsmogor
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OSX is moderately successful compared to IOS, Linux desktop is an utter failure (market share wise) when put against Android.

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RE[4]: Weakness
by Laurence on Wed 9th Jan 2013 14:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Weakness"
Laurence Member since:
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OSX is moderately successful compared to IOS, Linux desktop is an utter failure (market share wise) when put against Android.

Indeed, but my point was about computing paradigms.

I explained myself very badly, but what I was trying to say was that suggesting Android over GNU/Linux development (as he did) doesn't really make much sense because they target entirely different types of devices. However suggesting OS X or Windows development does make a logical (in the sense of comparing like for like) argument because they are all desktop OSs.

Edited 2013-01-09 14:52 UTC

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RE[5]: Weakness
by dsmogor on Thu 10th Jan 2013 09:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Weakness"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

I agree that Android currently lacks many elements that would be required by a full blown desktop, but its low level foundation (services and drivers ) are sound, stable, performant and field tested. Most of all, the OEMS have great expertise with adopting to them.
Porting current OSS video drivers to Android interfaces wouldn't be too hard I guess (it's all based on OpenGL anyway). QT is already experimentally available on top of flinger, and Digia is committed to it. They would be more than happy to unify their Android and Wayland support efforts. I guess Nvidia might also root to unifying their mobile and desktop lines both in hardware and software.
The most tricky part is adding missing WIMP parts (like proper window management and input event framework) and Google would need to be involved here. But unifying Android and Chrome OS is in their interest too.

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