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Windows So, a rudimentary jailbreak for Windows RT made its way onto the web these past few days. Open source applications were ported right away, and it was confirmed that Windows RT is the full Windows - it's exactly the same as regular Windows, except that it runs on ARM. Microsoft responded to the jailbreak as well.
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RE[5]: Comment by saso
by mistersoft on Wed 9th Jan 2013 16:40 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by saso"
mistersoft
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2011-01-05

. The mouse will augment the touch experience instead of touch augmenting the mouse experience, in pretty short order.


..My thoughts in your reply to the above comment..
i.e. "I really doubt that."...are the following:

Personally I've yet to use Metro/Win8/WinRT either via Touch or Keyboard and mouse(apart from v briefly in passing on other people's machines)

But that said, I've thought several times about how touch interfaces and keyboard/mouse control might marry up better in the future. And my personal hope on that front is that some company, Wacom being the obvious choice with their existing expertise in touch and graphic tablet screen -via their Intuos, and more relevantly their Cintiq line, will come out with a tablet specifically designed as a fancy PC(/Mac) input device.

Rather than have to design complicated host machine drivers for essential a 'dumb' usb peripheral device - I personally reckon the best route to have it be a 'plug in anywhere' device would be have it basically be an low to mid range android tablet hardware wise but with a matte anti reflective screen and really good multi-touch. Non-slip mouse pad style backing. Pressure sensitivity for artistic or in-depth design work would NOT BE THERE or you'd be undercutting their own Cintiq line etc(for instance); That *should* also allow much lower costs. And sales could be huge I reckon.

Basically - whether or not you had built-in Android functionality/app capability as a bonus -
The MAIN/PRIMARY functionality of such hypothetical device....and here's my point....would be to have the device mirror your primary 24" screen to use as a " 'simple' multi-touch pad with a picture". And the big point of this for me would be (A)to facilitate the mouse-pointer 'landing' on the screen where-ever exactly your finger hits the 'video-touch-pad' --thereby removing the ever-so-slight but almost eternal annoyance of having to look for the pointer upon grabbing the mouse. Plus (B)would also facilitate local touch and multi-touch gestures without having to reach out your arm --which would certainly get tiring as you've said. Also for those with the extra cash, and/or the need for finer control - having an entire touch-enabled 24" display available also, should you need it or want it, would simply become an occasional additional bonus if your main screen also has touch.

[[Personally I'd price such a 'tablet/touchpad device' at about the same as a Nexus 7(150GBP)though with a lower cpu and memory ; matte screen ; direct USB-screen mirroring and simple Mac/win/Linux self-installing plug-n-play driver for the toggle switch etc -see below]]

Lastly - sorry for rambling(probably TL;DR i know) - but this type of set-up would allow much greater use of 'second'/'third'/'fourth' virtual screens, which I know are available on Mac but I never use, and definitely on Linux where I sometimes do, and on Windows -I'm not sure I've only ever had 2nd Hardware screen on windows. But anyway, yes, if you had e.g. photoshop tool palettes on you 2nd screen, email open on your third -whatever..; if you could toggle between these xtra virtual screen via a button on the bottom of your 'video-touch-pad' and then when you touched e.g. a toolpad, the mouse would appear at that point automatically toggled to the correct screen on your main screen (or not). All sorts of possibilities.

I've meant to - but never got round to emailing Wacom - might do that now. Can I be bothered to tidy up my ramble for the idea to be taken seriously.. hmm.
*Thanks for reading*

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RE[6]: Comment by saso
by Nelson on Wed 9th Jan 2013 17:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by saso"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


But that said, I've thought several times about how touch interfaces and keyboard/mouse control might marry up better in the future. And my personal hope on that front is that some company, Wacom being the obvious choice with their existing expertise in touch and graphic tablet screen -via their Intuos, and more relevantly their Cintiq line, will come out with a tablet specifically designed as a fancy PC(/Mac) input device.


I love these kind of ideas. I think someone, or many people across many companies are thinking of new and innovative ways to change the way we interact with computing.

As for the rest of your comment, I didn't find it to be that much of a rant, and I agree with the premise of a lot of it. I'm excited for how we're going to use computing moving forward.

I think there's interesting things happening with using other screens to augment the main screen (Look at Smart Glass for example) but current implementations are primitive and rather clumsy. I think with some iteration they'll be on to something.

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