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RE[7]: We are talking about IE here!
by lucas_maximus on Wed 9th Jan 2013 23:45
in reply to "RE[6]: We are talking about IE here! "
I'm sorry, I don't think it has anything to do with the method.
The problem is the webdevelopers, they should build stuff which 'degrades'. If you do that, some features will not be enabled, but things don't break.
The problem is the webdevelopers, they should build stuff which 'degrades'. If you do that, some features will not be enabled, but things don't break.
I understand perfectly why it exists. However you are expecting a lot of "web developers" a lot of who are designers doing their bit or simply don't care/don't know any better about doing it properly.
The same could have been achieved with a simple "developer" mode and checking for a particular JavaScript property to see if it was available, it is no different than a debug mode in some IDEs such as VS.
What you are expecting just simply doesn't happen, I would suggest you browser thedailywtf.com for how pretty much every good idea in Software Engineering can be abused.
A lot of senior developers at my place are great at writing SQL Stored Procedures and Optimizing Databases but are clueless to how to write a standards compliant webpage.
The fact is that unless the browser makers make it extremely difficult to use these hacks and experimental features outside of a "developer mode", they will continue to exist. Unfortunately they would break the web if they did.
BTW IE 10 has removed support for the IE comments hack, which is good IMHO.
I don't expect the situation to improve. All I can do is try to tell my Juniors to do things properly and hope they get the message when I reject their code on review if it doesn't work cross browser (which is part of our peer review process before test).
Edited 2013-01-09 23:58 UTC




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I'm sorry, I don't think it has anything to do with the method.
The problem is the webdevelopers, they should build stuff which 'degrades'. If you do that, some features will not be enabled, but things don't break.
But you should first understand why it exists and how it is supposed to be used:
http://vimeo.com/16326857 23:13