Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jan 2013 23:45 UTC
Games The Verge got to interview Valve's CEO, Gabe Newell, and the priceless quotes are just flying left and right. "We'll come out with our own and we'll sell it to consumers by ourselves. That'll be a Linux box, [and] if you want to install Windows you can. We're not going to make it hard. This is not some locked box by any stretch of the imagination." Others will be making Steambox devices too. Also: "Windows 8 was like this giant sadness. It just hurts everybody in the PC business. [...] When I started using it I was like 'oh my god...' I find [Windows 8] unusable." This last point is something I agree with vehemently. Can't comment on Windows 8 on tablets, but on regular PCs it's a schizophrenic, unusable clusterduck. It got me to switch back to Mac and use KDE (on my laptop). Let that sink in for a while.
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RE[6]: Comment
by Nelson on Thu 10th Jan 2013 03:17 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment"
Nelson
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2005-11-29

Problem is that Modern UI is supposed to be the main UI. It's overblown only if you look at criticism from that side. Mouse and keyboard use with Modern UI is a sub-par experience in general and very annoying in too many(read - enough to remember) user facing cases.


Like I said, that may be your opinion, or your stick to beat Windows 8 with, but its certainly not my experience. I wouldn't be able to tolerate anything which impacted my productivity as a developer and I get along fine.

Obviously if you need functionality that exists outside of the new Metro bits, you are well within your rights to use the Classic Experience.

In the case of Visual Studio that's what I do. I'm sure I could find some Web Browser shell on the Windows Store that shows me tabs the way I want them, but I just haven't bothered.


PS: Fullscreen IE is as Modern UI as the content you're consuming - it's not(even Microsoft's own site)


Metro IE is easier for me to navigate when just doing content consumption. I have a Microsoft Touch Mouse which makes a lot of these gestures and esp. scrolling really easy for me to use.

I highly suggest it if your Windows 8 experience is as frustrating as you suggest.

Edited 2013-01-10 03:19 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment
by ssokolow on Thu 10th Jan 2013 05:31 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

Metro IE is easier for me to navigate when just doing content consumption. I have a Microsoft Touch Mouse which makes a lot of these gestures and esp. scrolling really easy for me to use.

I highly suggest it if your Windows 8 experience is as frustrating as you suggest.


So you're saying we should spend our hard-earned money on new hardware from Microsoft just to make up for shortcomings in the new software we already paid for from Microsoft?

Thanks, but I think I'll just count my blessings that I switched to Linux for my day-to-day work near the end of the Windows XP era.

At least, this way, I can run a desktop environment that values consistency and getting work done over trying out every new, glitzy idea that pops into the developers' heads.

Edited 2013-01-10 05:33 UTC

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RE[8]: Comment
by Nelson on Thu 10th Jan 2013 14:13 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


So you're saying we should spend our hard-earned money on new hardware from Microsoft just to make up for shortcomings in the new software we already paid for from Microsoft?


No. I'm saying that if it is such an issue for you, then you have options.

I'm not even sure where you come into the picture, because I'm certain I wasn't replying to you. If you're going to cut in on my discussion with someone else you should at least bother reading with proper context.

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