Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Jan 2013 17:28 UTC
Apple After relying on third parties for several years - Internet Explorer, Netscape - Apple decided that it was time to take matters into its own hands. It was time Apple created its own browser (again). And so, Safari was born, and released unto the world ten years ago. These past few weeks, Don Melton, the project lead for Safari and WebKit, has been sharing a lot of interesting stories about the origins and development of Apple's browser.
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RE[2]: The enemy of my enemy is...
by Vanders on Fri 11th Jan 2013 22:01 UTC in reply to "RE: The enemy of my enemy is..."
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple and safari are not even close to being competitors of any influence to windows or IE.

I believe his point is that Apple took KHTML and created the (far more portable) WebKit, which in turn has become the basis of Chrome and a whole bunch of other Open Source web browsers. Without that work KHTML would likely have remained firmly wedded to KDE, and we'd be looking at Firefox and a few larger projects struggling along trying to keep their ports of Gecko up to date.

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mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

Not to mention that the number of users on WebKit certainly DO compete hugely with IE if you include mobile & tablet numbers, and Apple with iOS (and Chrome/Android, which you'll have to forgive me for calling an sort of Safari/iOS knockoffs ;) ) crushed Microsoft like a grape in the mobile space, which is a LOT of users.

Samsung announcing they're not going to bother trying to do Windows RT tablets in the US market is not a sign of strength for Microsoft at this time no matter how much people want to pretend Apple didn't hugely influence the current market.

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Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

Not to mention that the number of users on WebKit certainly DO compete hugely with IE if you include mobile & tablet numbers, and Apple with iOS (and Chrome/Android, which you'll have to forgive me for calling an sort of Safari/iOS knockoffs ;) ) crushed Microsoft like a grape in the mobile space, which is a LOT of users.

Samsung announcing they're not going to bother trying to do Windows RT tablets in the US market is not a sign of strength for Microsoft at this time no matter how much people want to pretend Apple didn't hugely influence the current market.


No I didn't include mobile and tablet as microsoft hardly has a monopoly there. It was Apple that had a monopoly (emphasis on had). It is in the PC segment that safari has failed miserably to present a meaningfull competition. Samsung has a choice to make and it would seem it is siding with google on this one, however we were not discussing tablets because MS did not have a monopoly there either ....

May I ask if you are stupid or just an apple fanboi ;)

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Not to mention that the number of users on WebKit certainly DO compete hugely with IE if you include mobile & tablet numbers, and Apple with iOS (and Chrome/Android, which you'll have to forgive me for calling an sort of Safari/iOS knockoffs ;) ) crushed Microsoft like a grape in the mobile space, which is a LOT of users.

The amount of mobile browsing is still a small minority, compared to the desktop: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vs_desktop-ww-monthly-200807-2013...

But of course, on the desktop Webkit is now also dominant, as Chrome: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200807-201301

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