Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 12th Jan 2013 22:53 UTC
Windows Well, this can't be a good sign. Samsung has told CNET that the company will not be launching its Windows RT tablet in the United States, citing a lack of demand and consumer confusion. After I spent an afternoon in my country's largest electronics retailer, it's hard not to agree with Samsung.
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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by saso on Sun 13th Jan 2013 14:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
saso
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2007-04-18

On the other hand, ARM-vendors do not sell their SoCs to individual people and there are no motherboards to slap them on to, so I wonder how much of the asking price for the Intel-processors come from all the logistics and packaging needed to sell to end-users -- I doubt it's an entirely negligible amount.

ARM doesn't have a machine architecture standard such as x86 has (IBM PC), so no wonder there is little to no homebrew when compared to x86. At a fundamental level, from a software perspective, every PC looks the same. There's a BIOS mapped at a certain address which has certain standard functions you can invoke, every PC has a standard ISA and (later) PCI bus interface that is largely probed in the same way, etc. ARM lacks that. Even a single ARM CPU model can be implemented and firmware-coded to wildly different behavior (which is why bootloaders and firmware blobs are often times highly vendor-specific).

IBM's (and their clone maker's) contribution is easily taken for granted, but it was by no means a small thing in the industry.

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RE[5]: Comment by Nelson
by WereCatf on Sun 13th Jan 2013 14:59 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Nelson"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Indeed. Standardization is one thing ARM really, really needs in order to become a more attractive a choice in general, and only once standardization is achieved will it really be viable for proper enthusiast-use.

I could certainly imagine a future where e.g. the SoC and its RAM are just soldered-on to a motherboard and enthusiasts buy the bundle as-is as that would certainly ease things for the manufacturers and vendors, but for that to happen there must be a proper spec for booting the devices in a standard way and for accessing their resources. Also, it would require the manufacturers to actually start providing up-to-date drivers for their systems.

Alas, given the almost complete lack of interest from the SoC-manufacturers towards enthusiast-/desktop-markets and even actually-working software such a future is likely FAR away.

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RE[6]: Comment by Nelson
by lucas_maximus on Sun 13th Jan 2013 19:53 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Nelson"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

On of my disappointments with Win RT is that I really wanted a full featured laptop with an ARM version of VS.

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