Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Jan 2013 15:14 UTC
Apple The Wall Street Journal: "Apple has cut its orders for components for the iPhone 5 due to weaker-than-expected demand, people familiar with the situation said Monday. Apple's orders for iPhone 5 screens for the January-March quarter, for example, have dropped to roughly half of what the company had previously planned to order, two of the people said. The Cupertino company has also cut orders for components other than screens, according to one of the people." The WSJ is usually very well informed about Apple matters (and Japanese business new Nikkei reports something similar), so it's a safe assumption that they're not making this up. What, exactly, this means, we don't know; perhaps a new model already? Seems strange they would switch to a different screen this quickly, though. Android (more specifically: Samsung) keeps on growing, so it's only inevitable that Apple would feel a sting there at some point. We'll know for sure on the 23rd, when Apple's latest quarterly results come rolling in.
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RE[5]: Prices and choice
by MOS6510 on Tue 15th Jan 2013 16:24 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Prices and choice"
MOS6510
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2011-05-12

It´s statistics I guess. The probability is low that your iPhone will get stolen or destroyed and the probability is high you can resell it for a nice amount.

Sure, if you get 150 for it you´d invest it in a new phone, but you did get 150.

Buy an iPhone for 700, sell it for 150, buy a new model for 800. 700 - 150 + 800 == 1350. If you didn´t sell it it would be 700 + 800 == 1500. You could also state that the first iPhone only cost you 550.

There is a strong market for used iPhones. Offer one and you get multiple offers in very little time.

Yes, it´s all a gamble, but statistically sound, just like a lot of things in life are gambles, but have a low probability of going wrong. Like eating at McDonald´s, driving a car and crossing the street on Friday the 13th.

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RE[6]: Prices and choice
by Laurence on Tue 15th Jan 2013 22:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Prices and choice"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

You're still completely ignoring my point about how that credit is always passed forwards instead of backwards (the house market analogy). So you're not saving any money. You're just earning and then re-investing money into future purchases. (something you could equally do with other phones - sure you'd earn less for them, but the next phones would equally cost less).

You've also ignored my point that your examples of "gambles" aren't even remotely in the same range as having a phone lost / damaged. (I've had more takeaways and crossed more streets than I've owned phones. Yet I've never been hit buy a car nor got ill from a takeaway. Yet I have had phones both stolen and damaged.)

And finally, Friday the 13th has nothing to do chance. It's just dumb superstition.

So please, for the love of God, quit trying to justify this stupid argument. I know for a fact that you have more sense than this ;)

edit: please excuse the terrible English in the above post. It reads terribly, but I've reached that point in the evening where tiredness has destroyed any writing abilities I had (and I'm far from a talented writer to begin with hehe)

Edited 2013-01-15 22:38 UTC

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RE[7]: Prices and choice
by MOS6510 on Wed 16th Jan 2013 05:21 in reply to "RE[6]: Prices and choice"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

???

I have addressed both points!

When selling your phone an iPhone yields more, simple. You can keep that money, buy a new iPhone, buy a used iPhone, buy another smart phone or buy a dumb phone. If you sell your house do you say, "Nah, keep the money, I'd just reinvest it in a new one anyway."?

It's just simple maths/economics and you shouldn't dismiss it on the slight chance your phone might get stolen or damaged. If this worries you so much it would make more sense to buy a dumb one.

If you're good at poker you'll know it's about money vs probability. You won't always win, but if you keep playing the probabilities in the long run on avarage you'd win.

Stolen or damaged: low probability
Ability to sell it for good money: very high

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