Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 15th Jan 2013 01:24 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Dell, the personal-computer maker that lost almost a third of its value last year, is in buyout talks with private-equity firms, two people with knowledge of the matter said. The shares surged." So yeah, like I said - no wonder Microsoft has entered the hardware business. The PC OEM era is over.
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RE[5]: Comment by kovacm
by kovacm on Tue 15th Jan 2013 20:26 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kovacm"
kovacm
Member since:
2010-12-16

Bonus trivia:

What does "atari" mean?


touché! ;)

I mention Atari in response to Thom: "People should really stop bringing that up. Apple WAS dead." - yes, for most people Apple was on exactly same path as Atari, Commodore, IBM (in PC sector), NeXT, SUN, SGi... and all other GREAT companies... and before that, it was truly amazing time until...

...they all went down thanks to Microsoft (and sheep-like users)!

but Apple/Steve Jobs prove that MIRACLES are possible ;)
- return of Apple to mainstream computing AND beginning of Microsoft downfall today is biggest thing ever happened in computer world for last three decades ;)

...and I am very happy that WORLD finally recognized RIGHT path!


for end, let me quote Douglas Adams which beautifully illustrate 80s and 90s:

"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he, by peddling second rate technology, led them into it in the first place, and continues to do so today."

Edited 2013-01-15 20:29 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by kovacm
by MOS6510 on Tue 15th Jan 2013 20:42 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kovacm"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I agree, with one exception: NeXT wasn't really a great company. They had some interesting ideas and technology, but could barely shed their start-up skin.

It was a rather small company. If it hadn't been for Steve Jobs and his return to Apple I suspect most people would never have known about it.

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RE[7]: Comment by kovacm
by moondevil on Tue 15th Jan 2013 21:21 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kovacm"
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2005-07-08

My graduation project was to port a graphics framework from the (evaluated as) defunct NeXTSTEP (Objective-C) to the newly shiny Windows 98 (C++).

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RE[7]: Comment by kovacm
by zima on Fri 18th Jan 2013 14:39 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by kovacm"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

NeXT [...] was a rather small company. If it hadn't been for Steve Jobs and his return to Apple I suspect most people would never have known about it.

I think most people don't know about NeXT, anyway - only ~geeks do.

But there's one thing for which we would remember it even without the return of Steve Jobs to Apple: WWW started on a NeXT machine.

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RE[6]: Comment by kovacm
by moondevil on Tue 15th Jan 2013 21:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kovacm"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I don't know how bad this would influence computer prices, because PC OEM were the ones driving them down.

But I really miss the Software+Hardware (without bloatware) experience that the other systems had, before the PC became the only game in town.

Sure it has portability issues, as the older from us can remember, or see again in the mobile space. On the other hand it really forces everyone, even against their will, to play nicer with each other in data formats.

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RE[6]: Comment by kovacm
by zima on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 23:03 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kovacm"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

kovacm, you are detached from reality. ALL custom platforms died out, also Macintoshes (they are now completely generic PCs under the hood, with mostly generic software).

Wintel ecosystem was and is simply better than those "GREAT companies" http://www.osnews.com/thread?522221

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