Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 15th Jan 2013 23:28 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The smartphone world is, at this point, a two-horse race. Android has the numbers, Apple's iOS has the figures. Everything else - Symbian, Windows Phone, BlackBerry, etc. - are also-rans. Irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Even though, say, Windows Phone not making any serious headway into the market, despite boatloads of money poured into the platform, RIM still thinks it can do better with BB10. Austrian website Telekom-Presse has a pretty detailed video hands-on with a BB10 device - the Z10 - and it left me with one burning question: what is BB10's identity?
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RE[2]: Multitasking
by Moochman on Wed 16th Jan 2013 00:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Multitasking"
Moochman
Member since:
2005-07-06

Not a single consumer cares about real multitasking.


So I guess I'm not a "real" consumer?

'Social integration' isn't working for Windows Phone and webOS either - people prefer applications.


You don't need to get rid of the applications. But the integration of notifications and contacts is the difference. Anyone who used webOS with Facebook for any length of time back in the day knows what I am talking about and would be able to recognize how deficient other platforms still are.

Notification center - uh, Android?


A list of notifications in no particular order (so no relying on visual memory), each of which requires you to open up a different app with completely incongruous interfaces just to see the contents, is not even close.

You may think the visual stuff doesn't matter - but out there, in the real world of sales and consumers? It does.


Of course it matters. Especially to "consumers". But thing is, this actually matches BlackBerry's existing brand identity. You may not like it or think it's "cool", but then again neither was the aesthetic of MS Windows or Word compared to Mac, and yet due to its usefulness it has still managed to maintain a stronghold in the business world...

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RE[3]: Multitasking
by HappyGod on Wed 16th Jan 2013 04:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Multitasking"
HappyGod Member since:
2005-10-19

You're not a "real" consumer that Blackberry would be targeting, no.

How many of the thousands upon thousands of iOS and Android users do you think know or even care what multitasking is, or care that their previews are "fake" as you put it?

And even for those that do, how many do you think would say:

"Hmm, I could have this iPhone/Android with all of the features of this BB, plus a massive thriving user base, and thousands of apps. But instead, I'll take this BB which gives me none of those things, but does give me real previews."

The point of the article was that if you're going to compete at this stage of the game, you can't just be a me-too player. You've got to have a hook, and a bloody good one. I agree with the article in that BB just doesn't.

Additionally the Windows/Mac thing kind of proves the articles point really. It was Microsoft that was entrenched and popular due to some shady deals with IBM, not Apple. And it was Apple that was trying to get a foothold and couldn't even though they were way better. They never did, and today almost all desktops are still Windows, not Mac.

To get ahead, Apple had to change the battleground, and did so.

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RE[4]: Multitasking
by zima on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 13:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Multitasking"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

the Windows/Mac thing kind of proves the articles point really. It was Microsoft that was entrenched and popular due to some shady deals with IBM, not Apple. And it was Apple that was trying to get a foothold and couldn't even though they were way better. They never did, and today almost all desktops are still Windows, not Mac.

Additionally - better only for a time, more in the DOS era. Windows quickly caught up, largely as the result of its scales & popularity & being entrenched, too.

Edited 2013-01-22 13:21 UTC

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