Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Jan 2013 23:40 UTC
Windows Pokki is a start menu replacement for Windows - and it has already been downloaded 1.5 million times for Windows 8. "Since the launch of Windows 8, we've seen over 1.5 million Pokki downloads on the new OS itself and users opening the Pokki Menu an average of 10 times a day. These early numbers demonstrate that users enjoy being able to instantly access and discover apps, straight from the desktop." And this is just one of the countless replacements. Microsoft should've never kept the traditional desktop in there - they've given users the ability to escape Metro, and this will only hurt the new environment.
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RE: Just a thought...
by llorllale on Thu 17th Jan 2013 01:08 UTC in reply to "Just a thought..."
llorllale
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2013-01-17

That has to be the absolutely most whiny review on the planet _ever_.

I still don't get why people are still using the Start menu. Tools like Launchy make the job wayyyyyyy easier and more effective.

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RE[2]: Just a thought...
by Dekonega on Thu 17th Jan 2013 01:43 in reply to "RE: Just a thought..."
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2009-07-28

I personally feel the review is just about right. I tried to use Windows 8 since the "Release Preview" as my primary Windows "desktop". And I gave up like two weeks ago, reformatted and returned to Windows 7 on my Windows box. The exact reason for this was that the "Windows 8 was unusable". It is "so poorly designed" that I was experiencing hard difficulties which were actually "preventing getting me getting my work done". I think Microsoft didn't care about the input their customers gave them during the development of Windows 8. There are bazillion of things which could have been done in much better fashion.

As for your question, maybe people just like, like to see, and search, what they want, instead of remembering the name of the application or object they're trying to find? :-)

Learning names of the computer applications for most of the common folk is very difficult. They don't want to learn stuff like that. They understand the system better if they can just see "a big blue e" icon which they know presents "the Internet" for them.

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RE[3]: Just a thought...
by WorknMan on Thu 17th Jan 2013 03:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Just a thought..."
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2005-11-13

I personally feel the review is just about right. I tried to use Windows 8 since the "Release Preview" as my primary Windows "desktop". And I gave up like two weeks ago, reformatted and returned to Windows 7 on my Windows box. The exact reason for this was that the "Windows 8 was unusable"


Honestly, I don't really understand this mentality. If you don't like Metro, fine. But why go back to Win7? Once you actually get to the desktop in Windows 8, it is pretty much the same as Windows 7, with some new bells & whistles. As a self-proclaimed power user, I had no trouble adapting to the Metro start screen, mainly because I use it the same as I used the start menu in Windows 7:

In Windows 7:
Press the Win key, start typing the name of the application until it is selected, and then press Enter

In Windows 8:
Press the Win key, start typing the name of the application until it is selected, and then press Enter

It's the same damn process, but in Windows 8, it's actually a little faster. And of course, there are tons of start menu replacements available. As for Metro itself, I find it to be mostly useless (except for the Messenger app which gives me desktop notifications when I get a Facebook message), but its use is hardly mandatory. In fact, I forget it's even there 99% of the time. And it's not like Metro is slowing things down either, as Windows 8 feels at least as fast as Win7 did. If anything, it's just a little extra thing that's included with the OS.

So I'm puzzled as to why anyone would go back to Windows 7, esp with the benefits that Windows 8 offers - native USB 3.0 support, a much better task manager, native ISO mounting, taskbars on multiple monitors, hyper V virtualization, etc:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8

Of course, I COULD go back to Win7, but it has absolutely nothing to offer me that Win8 doesn't. Plus, for $40 I got the Pro version (from Win7's Home Premium), so I can remote desktop in from any machine on my LAN.

Edited 2013-01-17 03:24 UTC

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RE[3]: Just a thought...
by Lion on Thu 17th Jan 2013 03:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Just a thought..."
Lion Member since:
2007-03-22

I hate that video.
If you break down everything he says it comes out as "it's broken because I couldn't figure out how to do it"
I'll concede to his review that the discoverability is pretty awful, but to say that the whole OS is unusable because he didn't bother to find out how the new behaviours work is a bit of a stretch.

Personally I prefer win8 to win7. I realise I'm in the minority and any post I make is not going to change a single mind. But it's an easier adjustment than I had when I first tried Linux after being exclusively a Windows user, and I had a lot less reading to do before becoming productive.

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RE[3]: Just a thought...
by llorllale on Thu 17th Jan 2013 12:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Just a thought..."
llorllale Member since:
2013-01-17

I personally feel the review is just about right.


I think the tone is way off. The review comes across as someone jumping at the chance to ride the anti-microsoft-win8 wave and make a name for themselves. It's a whiney, non-productive review.

I tried to use Windows 8 since the "Release Preview" as my primary Windows "desktop". And I gave up like two weeks ago, reformatted and returned to Windows 7 on my Windows box. The exact reason for this was that the "Windows 8 was unusable". It is "so poorly designed" that I was experiencing hard difficulties which were actually "preventing getting me getting my work done". I think Microsoft didn't care about the input their customers gave them during the development of Windows 8. There are bazillion of things which could have been done in much better fashion.


I concede that I've only prodded around a bit in win8. I am still testing things out in a VM. I have come across some weird UI refresh bugs in some metro apps, but nothing catastrophic. And personally, I LOVE how clean the Metro interface is. It's not up to all tasks, but that's why you are still left with the classic desktop as an option!

As for your question, maybe people just like, like to see, and search, what they want, instead of remembering the name of the application or object they're trying to find? :-)

Learning names of the computer applications for most of the common folk is very difficult. They don't want to learn stuff like that. They understand the system better if they can just see "a big blue e" icon which they know presents "the Internet" for them.


Then these are not people looking to be productive I suppose. Which is what I thought was the point.

The tiles in the Metro start screen are a lot more readily identifiable than a long list of menu options, imho.

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