Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Jan 2013 23:40 UTC
Windows Pokki is a start menu replacement for Windows - and it has already been downloaded 1.5 million times for Windows 8. "Since the launch of Windows 8, we've seen over 1.5 million Pokki downloads on the new OS itself and users opening the Pokki Menu an average of 10 times a day. These early numbers demonstrate that users enjoy being able to instantly access and discover apps, straight from the desktop." And this is just one of the countless replacements. Microsoft should've never kept the traditional desktop in there - they've given users the ability to escape Metro, and this will only hurt the new environment.
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RE[3]: Just a thought...
by llorllale on Thu 17th Jan 2013 12:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Just a thought..."
llorllale
Member since:
2013-01-17

I personally feel the review is just about right.


I think the tone is way off. The review comes across as someone jumping at the chance to ride the anti-microsoft-win8 wave and make a name for themselves. It's a whiney, non-productive review.

I tried to use Windows 8 since the "Release Preview" as my primary Windows "desktop". And I gave up like two weeks ago, reformatted and returned to Windows 7 on my Windows box. The exact reason for this was that the "Windows 8 was unusable". It is "so poorly designed" that I was experiencing hard difficulties which were actually "preventing getting me getting my work done". I think Microsoft didn't care about the input their customers gave them during the development of Windows 8. There are bazillion of things which could have been done in much better fashion.


I concede that I've only prodded around a bit in win8. I am still testing things out in a VM. I have come across some weird UI refresh bugs in some metro apps, but nothing catastrophic. And personally, I LOVE how clean the Metro interface is. It's not up to all tasks, but that's why you are still left with the classic desktop as an option!

As for your question, maybe people just like, like to see, and search, what they want, instead of remembering the name of the application or object they're trying to find? :-)

Learning names of the computer applications for most of the common folk is very difficult. They don't want to learn stuff like that. They understand the system better if they can just see "a big blue e" icon which they know presents "the Internet" for them.


Then these are not people looking to be productive I suppose. Which is what I thought was the point.

The tiles in the Metro start screen are a lot more readily identifiable than a long list of menu options, imho.

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RE[4]: Just a thought...
by r_a_trip on Thu 17th Jan 2013 14:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Just a thought..."
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Then these are not people looking to be productive I suppose. Which is what I thought was the point.

It's time the "typers" learn to understand that "mousers" can be just as quick and productive with a good visually thought out interface as the "typers" are with their run dialogs. A good interface accomodates both types of users. Being a "typer" A. doesn't make you a power user, B. is just a personal preference. You are not a more advanced user just because you prefer a keyboard to a mouse.

TIFKAM is not a good "mousers" interface. It's intrusive, it has ginormous tiles on that start screen that take up valuable screenreal estate and it forces you to lose visual contact with whatever you were doing if you invoke it. We don't need icons the size of Manhattan, the old size was damn near perfect for use with a mouse. We don't need a start menu that eats all screen real estate and forces a cognitive context switch. Crummy as the old start menu is, it is much better at preserving the context in which you are working.

We are not afraid of change, but we want change that is significantly better. Not change that some other people can live with, because (luckily for them) it doesn't stomp over their previously acquired workflows and doesn't worsen their experience.

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RE[5]: Just a thought...
by zima on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 17:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Just a thought..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

BTW, you might find http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mouse_vs._keyboard/ interesting.

Edited 2013-01-22 17:56 UTC

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RE[4]: Just a thought...
by phoenix on Fri 18th Jan 2013 00:11 in reply to "RE[3]: Just a thought..."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

A 2" blue square with a bit of white text on it, next to another 2" blue square with a bit of white text on it, nearly indistinguishable from each other, except for a tiny little app icon in one corner, is easier to use than a menu that puts just the icon and app name on it?

Being able to see only 12-ish items on a huge monitor, in a flat layout, is easier to use than seeing a nice cascading menu showing you where things are in a hierarchy, with nearly everything viewable at once onscreen (meaning, not the crappy Win7 Start menu)?

Are people who like the Metro Start Screen using 14" monitors or something?

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