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Apple "Never mind the fact that the iPod turned the entire music industry on its head. Never mind the fact that most successful notebooks today resemble designs first popularized by Apple. Never mind the fact that the blueprint of the modern day smartphone remains the original iPhone. Never mind the fact that competitors are scrambling wildly to copy the success and design of the iPad. Forget all of these things, because when it comes to Apple, the 'what have you done for me lately?' mentality reigns supreme."
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RE[4]: Reponse
by Soulbender on Sat 19th Jan 2013 05:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Reponse"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

Your reading comprehension needs some work. I didn't say it performed as well as an iPhone, I said it performs well (really well, actually) and it cost 1/10 of an iPhone.
It's not mythical, it's sitting on my desk.

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RE[5]: Reponse
by Nelson on Sat 19th Jan 2013 05:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

If it doesn't perform as smoothly as an iPhone it likely doesn't perform well at all. There's not much of a gray area between smooth and not smooth.

I don't think your mythical phone being not-quite-as-fast as an iPhone does much to disprove my point.

Android, still, to this day, despite Jelly Bean, still isn't up to iPhone levels of smoothness on any device. That's why I cited it as an example of Android's ongoing evolution.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by JAlexoid on Sat 19th Jan 2013 06:04 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

I doubt that you have iPhone4 with iOS6.

Granted, my Galaxy Nexus is not as smooth as my partner's iPhone5. But considering that iPhone5 has actually a beast of a SoC, that's not surprising.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by Soulbender on Sat 19th Jan 2013 06:08 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

If it doesn't perform as smoothly as an iPhone it likely doesn't perform well at all.


Ok, so what you're saying is that the iphone is dangerously close to not performing well at all since there is no other area of performing well than being an iphone.

it likely doesn't perform well at all.


Wow, you're such an expert on a phone that you've never seen or used.

I don't think your mythical phone being not-quite-as-fast as an iPhone does much to disprove my point.


Uh...ok.
Your point: Android pretty much sucked performance-wise prior to Jelly Bean.
My point: My Gingerbread phone performs well.
Hmmm.........

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RE[6]: Reponse
by No it isnt on Sat 19th Jan 2013 12:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

You suffer from the delusion that smooth scrolling is the benchmark of all things. It's not. Smooth scrolling existed on the C64, a very slow computer with a very shitty OS by today's standards.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by Morgan on Sat 19th Jan 2013 20:51 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

My personal experience with JB is that it actually slowed down my phone's interface compared to its performance with ICS, and this is on a Nexus S, a "pure Google experience" phone. I could probably go back to ICS but it's too much trouble for the short time I'll still be using this device.

The only phone I've used to date that is as fast and fluid as an iPhone is a Windows Phone (HTC Arrive). And I only stopped using it because for the time being, I'm dependent on tethering and TeamViewer while on the go to support a few clients.

I'm working to simplify things in that regard, and I hope that by the time I'm up for renewal this summer I'll be free to choose between a new WP8 phone, a BB10 phone, an iPhone (though I'm doubtful about that one), or an Android phone (also doubtful, though if I choose that it would have to be the Galaxy Note 2, replacing both my phone and aging Nook Color).

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RE[5]: Reponse
by indieinvader on Sun 20th Jan 2013 00:53 in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
indieinvader Member since:
2009-08-11

I don't want to be too nit-picky but if you're going to make features to price comparisons you ought to use real numbers. A new iPhone 5 16GB costs $199 USD with an AT&T contract. A comparable Android phone (also form AT&T) doesn't get cheaper than $299 USD. I don't study math but I'm fairly certain 199 is not 10% of 299.

I'm not an Apple "FanBoy" as they are called, I use Apple's products because they offer quality, durability, and a pleasant use experience. I don't defend them, I defend rationality. If you make an argument against Apple (or anyone or anything) that makes sense and is properly founded I will believe you, not in any other case.

Sources:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/androidphones.html

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RE[6]: Reponse
by WereCatf on Sun 20th Jan 2013 01:58 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I don't want to be too nit-picky but if you're going to make features to price comparisons you ought to use real numbers. A new iPhone 5 16GB costs $199 USD with an AT&T contract. A comparable Android phone (also form AT&T) doesn't get cheaper than $299 USD. I don't study math but I'm fairly certain 199 is not 10% of 299.


Faulty logic. That's only because the iPhone is subsidized more -- have you checked that e.g. the monthly fee the user pays is the same, that AT&T themselves pay the same amount of money for both phones, and so on? You should compare unsubsidized prices or check all of your facts first.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by Soulbender on Sun 20th Jan 2013 02:38 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Who's making an argument against Apple? I am making an argument for Android by saying that my new Gingerbread phone is performing well.

A comparable Android phone (also form AT&T) doesn't get cheaper than $299 USD. I don't study math but I'm fairly certain 199 is not 10% of 299.


A) I am not in the U.S.
B) An unlocked iPhone costs $800+ here, my Gingerbread cost me ~$80. Do the math.

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