Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Jan 2013 14:22 UTC
Opera Software This is actually pretty big news - both exciting and tragic at the same time. Opera has revealed Opera Ice, its next mobile browser, to PocketLint. This new browser represent a big shift in both user interface as well as rendering engine, since it has a new, unique interface, as well as a new rendering engine... New to Opera, that is, as it's a WebKit-browser.
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by saso on Sat 19th Jan 2013 20:48 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
saso
Member since:
2007-04-18

And I think you are extremely naive in that you think that only formal standards bodies can facilitate cooperation.
Btw, how's that HTML5 standard coming along? Do you think that after about a decade of bickering we deserve a finalization? HTML5's first public working draft was in freakin' 2008 and it won't be until the end of 2014 that it will be finalized - 9 fucking years! In a technology space where often no more than 6 months is the separator between releases of game changing products. I'm sorry, W3C used to be very important in the past, but I feel that the volume of red tape has really swelled recently to the point of making W3C really quite impotent.

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by PresentIt on Sun 20th Jan 2013 01:01 in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Not only formal standard bodies can facilitate cooperation, but it's the only thing that can ensure an open web.

What about HTML5? Parts of it are ready already. But as you may notice, doing things properly takes time.

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by Laurence on Sun 20th Jan 2013 12:37 in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

What about HTML5? Parts of it are ready already. But as you may notice, doing things properly takes time.

I wouldn't call most of the stuff in HTML5 as a dynamic, interactive and multimedia rich language done well.

The problem with W3C isn't that they're perfecting the language - which takes time. It's purely politics.

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