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Apple "Never mind the fact that the iPod turned the entire music industry on its head. Never mind the fact that most successful notebooks today resemble designs first popularized by Apple. Never mind the fact that the blueprint of the modern day smartphone remains the original iPhone. Never mind the fact that competitors are scrambling wildly to copy the success and design of the iPad. Forget all of these things, because when it comes to Apple, the 'what have you done for me lately?' mentality reigns supreme."
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RE[4]: Reponse
by WereCatf on Sun 20th Jan 2013 03:30 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Reponse"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Oh, you do it that way. I thought you're supposed to log out first by clicking on your avatar on the Start screen and then clicking on the shutdown - thingie.

Oh well. Just goes to show how unintuitive that whole process is.

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RE[5]: Reponse
by bassbeast on Sun 20th Jan 2013 08:09 in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

See what I mean Werecat? Here you are, a geek with years of exp on a site full of geeks with years of exp and nobody can figure out basic tasks without just randomly poking crap and hoping it does something that is replicable.

And we're fricking geeks for God's sake, we are USED to dealing with funky weird tech all damned day, how in the hell is Joe Average and Sally Secretary supposed to figure this broken mess out? I mean who in the hell thought that simply shutting down the PC should be hidden under the universal SETTINGS icon? Does that make ANY sense?

And THAT is why I'm so damned sick of the Win 8 apologists either giving us the "Oh you're just a Luddite that refuses to accept "innovation" or learn new things" or the "Oh you just (insert bunch of keyboard crap)" excuses. I picked up how to get around your average Linux distro good enough to do basic tasks in maybe an hour, Android didn't even take that long, maybe half an hour, but in Win 8 despite having used Windows since 3.1 and computers since 1982 I couldn't do more than surf with the damned thing after a week! And the keyboard commanders...we are supposed to go back to printing "cheat sheets" like its 1985 again? THAT is innovation?

So I'm sorry but Win 8 is NOT new, its NOT innovative, its BROKEN. Its designed for an interface nobody has and goes bonkers if you use a normal PC interface (such as the swipe one minute move the mouse the next when you use a trackpad problem) and even if you DID have a touchscreen there is ZERO context or clues and what little context there is, like settings equal shutdown, is completely WRONG. I agree with the tech writer whose video i posted, Win 8 deserves a product recall because in its current state its just broken, its just not suitable for purpose.

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RE[5]: Reponse
by zlynx on Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:32 in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

Well, you are supposed to just press the power button on the computer, like every other device in the house. It is sort of perverse that we've become so used to needing to press a GUI button to shut down the system.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by bassbeast on Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:51 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

WRONG, I'm sorry and I have heard that excuse before and as a retailer I can tell you that YOU ARE WRONG and here is why:

Depending on the model SOME will shutdown when you press the button, SOME will go into hybrid sleep and SOME will go into hibernate...now quick, if you can't use the button because its a laptop and you need to actually shut the thing down and the power puts it to sleep, what do you do?

So I'm sorry but just like the keyboard commanders and their "Oh you just need to (bunch of lame keyboard crap nobody knows or will remember) you have just 1.- Adding a problem that didn't exist before, 2.- Adding unneeded complexity to what is supposed to be intuitive, 3.- Made what should be universal behavior completely random depending on the make and model.

So I'm sorry abut again that is NOT innovation, that is BROKEN DESIGN. Heck i built my own PC and I can tell you the default behavior on this particular motherboard is NOT shutdown when you push the button but S3 sleep!

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RE[6]: Reponse
by WereCatf on Mon 21st Jan 2013 03:24 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Well, you are supposed to just press the power button on the computer, like every other device in the house. It is sort of perverse that we've become so used to needing to press a GUI button to shut down the system.


But the thing is that the power button doesn't actually turn the thing on or off, Windows insists on it either putting the computer to sleep or to hibernate. On my laptop is sends the machine to sleep, and that's just not what I want when I am looking to shut the computer down.

Yes, I know you can change the functionality from the power settings, but how many Average Joes will ever find that? As such it doesn't negate the point raised in any way -- actually turning off the computer is more cumbersome than it should be.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by JAlexoid on Mon 21st Jan 2013 05:36 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Well, you are supposed to just press the power button on the computer, like every other device in the house. It is sort of perverse that we've become so used to needing to press a GUI button to shut down the system.


It goes into sleep... but since something is not right it immediately wakes up. So it took me 30 minutes before I could shut down my PC... nevermind logout.

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