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Apple "Never mind the fact that the iPod turned the entire music industry on its head. Never mind the fact that most successful notebooks today resemble designs first popularized by Apple. Never mind the fact that the blueprint of the modern day smartphone remains the original iPhone. Never mind the fact that competitors are scrambling wildly to copy the success and design of the iPad. Forget all of these things, because when it comes to Apple, the 'what have you done for me lately?' mentality reigns supreme."
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RE[4]: Reponse
by Tony Swash on Sun 20th Jan 2013 15:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Reponse"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

Too simplistic. Such a comparison completely ignores facts like e.g. there are no sub-$100 iPhones -- poor people generally buy cheaper phones and end up spending less money on all sorts of extras, so that immediately drags the average down.

If you wanted a more honest comparison you'd have to compare phone models of similar price and then see how the numbers add up. Then again, this is such an obvious thing that I have a strong feeling of bias on your part.


I am not sure how your argument counters what I am saying. I was responding to people who say that because Android is outselling iOS it is turning into a repeat of Mac Vs Windows and Android is winning the platform wars just like Windows did by selling more units. I am saying that not all units are equal. It seems that iOS units count more as platforms than Android units.

If it is true that the disparity in platform utilisation between iOS and Android is because a lot of sub-$100 Android phones are being sold then that merely explains the disparity it does change the consequences.

The fact of the matter is that Android is outselling iOS significantly and the Android installed base is now significantly bigger than the iOS installed. Yet the iOS ecosystem is much more healthy, dynamic, and lucrative than the Android ecosystem. Apple makes almost all the profits in the phones business and almost all Android OEMs except for Samsung are barely scrapping by. iOS developers are making more money than Android developers, the same with contents sellers, advertisers, peripheral makers. The iOS ecosystem is healthy, the Android ecosystem is surprisingly anaemic. The 'market share trumps everything' strand of thinking says it should be the other way round.That is the result of the difference in platform utilisation between the two.

Cheap Android phones may explain that phenomena (I personally think that 's only part of the answer BTW) but it does not change it.

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RE[5]: Reponse
by JAlexoid on Mon 21st Jan 2013 06:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

If you frequent Apple fanboi related sites, which I suspect you do, you have fallen to this issue of misrepresenting facts and clinging to numbers that are barely have any meaning outside of a small number of users.

Android install base is not significantly larger than an iOS install base. Both should be about 500mil by now, with a margin of error of no more than 15%. Total app revenues are barely known, as only Apple's revenues can be counted up. And there are stories on both sides of massive piracy and massive profits, that don't support any death threats to any platform.

And then there's this BS that comes from nowhere:

The iOS ecosystem is healthy, the Android ecosystem is surprisingly anaemic.

Both ecosystems are healthy and active.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by Tony Swash on Mon 21st Jan 2013 12:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

If you frequent Apple fanboi related sites, which I suspect you do, you have fallen to this issue of misrepresenting facts and clinging to numbers that are barely have any meaning outside of a small number of users.

Android install base is not significantly larger than an iOS install base. Both should be about 500mil by now, with a margin of error of no more than 15%. Total app revenues are barely known, as only Apple's revenues can be counted up. And there are stories on both sides of massive piracy and massive profits, that don't support any death threats to any platform.

And then there's this BS that comes from nowhere:
"The iOS ecosystem is healthy, the Android ecosystem is surprisingly anaemic.

Both ecosystems are healthy and active.
"

Every metric I have ever seen from multiple sources (none of which are your bizarre imaged 'fanboi' sites) says the same thing: Android users actually use their Android phones as a platform to do things much, much less than iOS users. Given the weight of evidence I would have thought this is not a very controversial thing to say. I could trawl the web for data links but do I really need to,?

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