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Apple "Never mind the fact that the iPod turned the entire music industry on its head. Never mind the fact that most successful notebooks today resemble designs first popularized by Apple. Never mind the fact that the blueprint of the modern day smartphone remains the original iPhone. Never mind the fact that competitors are scrambling wildly to copy the success and design of the iPad. Forget all of these things, because when it comes to Apple, the 'what have you done for me lately?' mentality reigns supreme."
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RE[5]: Reponse
by Shkaba on Mon 21st Jan 2013 19:58 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Reponse"
Shkaba
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2006-06-22


Quark, Adobe, Aldus, Macromedia, Digidesign, Apple Newton OS, OpenDoc..... read up on some of them. These technologies were all Apple (or the Windows version was inferior) for many years, and much money was made. Are you unfamiliar with these markets, or are you telling me that every design and marketing department wasn't loaded with macs in the 80's and 90's -- where you're from? Because I've been seeing that since I started noticing these things back in the 80's.

The idea that Apple became "stale" based on their OS interface only is goofy. They've always pushed UI consistency (even when not fully practicing it themselves).

Dude, calling me a fanboi is pretty ridiculous. A ridiculous term. I was on the internet on an Atari 24 years ago when I was a boy. I was on the web before HTML was finalized. Respect your digital elders son. Nearly everything digital you saw or heard in the 90's was made on a mac.


Thank you for the compliment. I feel so much younger all of the sudden ;) ... Oh well, back to reality:

Since you asked so politely as to where I was in my youth, here it is... in the '80 we had these huge rooms called computer centers where we would have these huge boxes some of them were called computers, some were known as tape units, etc. We used to program in some weird languages called COBOL, Fortran IV etc. That is where I was in the '80.

I suppose some people would consider me somewhat of a professional in the IT (at least they pay me as such). Now I don't have a problem with a statement like :
"Macs were dominant among the designers"
But that was not your statement. Your statement was apple OWNED .... see a problem there. As far as I can remember, apple never owned adobe!! The rest of your post is also gibberish ... OOP, really?? I mean for real??

Apple is stale because they do not have enough resources to manage both software and hardware development and have always and will always cut corners in the software side of things.

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RE[6]: Reponse
by ezraz on Mon 21st Jan 2013 20:04 in reply to "RE[5]: Reponse"
ezraz Member since:
2012-06-20

ok old grey beard i take back calling you son. you've been around. i too know of the giant tape machines and cobol. i also know that world is now more or less called a server closet or the cloud, and that apple has never tried to compete in that market.

corporate IT working with mainframes - of course you think of apples as toys. on that level of IT they aren't competing.

i also remember small companies with 20 macs, pc's and a few linux servers started to take the business from the old guys running room sized computers and a huge IT budget.

so from the home computer, consumer computing perspective (which is the only market apple exists in ) they were nearly owning those production markets.

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RE[7]: Reponse
by Shkaba on Mon 21st Jan 2013 20:22 in reply to "RE[6]: Reponse"
Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

I don't know why I just remembered an old disc unit which had 5(?) plates, each about half an inch thick with a diameter of about 10 inches and a capacity of whopping 1 MB ... good old days. Biggest accident at work: dropped a program on the floor and had to re-sort for hours (punch cards anyone?)

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