Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Jan 2013 21:17 UTC
The Verge has a learned a few interesting things about Google deprecating EAS and how this will affect Windows Phone users. As it turns out, Google informed Microsoft it was planning to remove EAS in the summer of last year, but without giving a firm date. Microsoft has been trying to get a six-month extension from Google, but so far with no luck. In the meantime, Microsoft is also working on adding CardDAV and CalDAV support to Windows Phone - so yay open standards.
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RE[6]: they gave notice, thats nice
by Nelson on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 08:20
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3G, LTE and WiFI are developer in an open way. They are not called open because you can get documentation.
Just like you can't call Android development an open process, you can't call EAS protocol an open standard.
Microsoft would need to let other people make contributions/comments in the development process of EAS.
Really, the only thing that would relate to patents in this case is if Microsoft had them undisclosed. Not all standards require a FRAND commitment(SD Association's exFAT is an example), but development has to be open to external contribution. That is what open stands for in open standards.
Just like you can't call Android development an open process, you can't call EAS protocol an open standard.
Microsoft would need to let other people make contributions/comments in the development process of EAS.
Really, the only thing that would relate to patents in this case is if Microsoft had them undisclosed. Not all standards require a FRAND commitment(SD Association's exFAT is an example), but development has to be open to external contribution. That is what open stands for in open standards.
You raise good points. Do you agree/disagree on royalties disqualifying a standard from being "open"?
If EAS were developed in the open, with community participation, but still had essential patents disclosed (and licensed reasonably*), would you consider it open?
* reasonable licensing doesn't necessarily imply FRAND, though it helps, obviously.
RE[7]: they gave notice, thats nice
by shmerl on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 08:56
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RE[7]: they gave notice, thats nice
by JAlexoid on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 16:45
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Member since:2009-05-19
FRAND obligations and reasonable licensing with Microsoft giving up exclusive control over the protocol would not necessarily imply that the standard is open or closed.
Currently EAS is much more accessible than any GSM standard. Microsoft is giving out licenses easily and they are not expensive.
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3G, LTE and WiFI are developer in an open way. They are not called open because you can get documentation.
Just like you can't call Android development an open process, you can't call EAS protocol an open standard.
Microsoft would need to let other people make contributions/comments in the development process of EAS.
Really, the only thing that would relate to patents in this case is if Microsoft had them undisclosed. Not all standards require a FRAND commitment(SD Association's exFAT is an example), but development has to be open to external contribution. That is what open stands for in open standards.
Edited 2013-01-22 07:52 UTC