Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 20th Jan 2013 23:42 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Ever since I bought my HTC HD7 way back in October 2010, I have been hooked on Windows Phone. Without even being able to test-drive the new operating system (The Netherlands didn't get Windows Phone 7 until a year later), I imported the HD7 from the US - the minimalist, stark, clean, flat, and textual interface spoke to me, and I just knew I would like it. And like it, I did.
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RE[3]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 11:32 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I don't think anyone can seriously claim Google designed Android <= 4.x as a windowed operating system. Anyone aside from Thom, that is.


And yet, nobody's been able to provide a counterargument to my statement - other than adding arbitrary restrictions to the established definition.

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RE[4]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Beerfloat on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Beerfloat Member since:
2011-06-05

And yet, nobody's been able to provide a counterargument to my statement - other than adding arbitrary restrictions to the established definition.


Probably because the statement is so non-specific and lacking in context as to become meaningless. Here's what you copy/pasted from Wikipedia:
"A window runs a self-contained program, isolated from other programs that (if in a multi-program operating system) run at the same time in other windows."


If your reading of that definition of a window were to be mistaken for conclusive, any visual output from programs in a multitasking OS would qualify as windows. In order to be able to lump full-screen task switching mobile operating systems in with the WIMP crowd, you ignore 40 years of computing history defining what those 'other windows' look and behave like.

In fact, the very Wiki page that you lifted your definition from notes the following, just 2 lines before the sentence you selected:
Some GUIs are not based in windows, icons, menus, and pointers. For example, most mobile phones represent actions as icons, and some may have menus, but very few include a pointer or run programs in a window.

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RE[5]: Comment by Beerfloat
by dragossh on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 17:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Beerfloat"
dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

I'll just point you to some developer documentation:

http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/windowsviews/...

http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/Window.html

Just because they don't have a titlebar or can't be resized doesn't mean they aren't windows.

Edited 2013-01-22 17:02 UTC

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