Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 20th Jan 2013 23:42 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces Ever since I bought my HTC HD7 way back in October 2010, I have been hooked on Windows Phone. Without even being able to test-drive the new operating system (The Netherlands didn't get Windows Phone 7 until a year later), I imported the HD7 from the US - the minimalist, stark, clean, flat, and textual interface spoke to me, and I just knew I would like it. And like it, I did.
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RE[5]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

For example, most mobile phones represent actions as icons, and some may have menus, but very few include a pointer or run programs in a window."


Oh really?

http://postimage.org/image/aovewnt03/

Aren't those windows?

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RE[6]: Comment by Beerfloat
by maccouch on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Beerfloat"
maccouch Member since:
2012-03-14

can you act on them? or are they just "screenhots" of apps for selection?

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RE[7]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:27 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Ah, so a new requirement is that we are supposed to be able to act on them in specific, to-be-determined ways? In Android, which has a similar window picker, you can close them. Does that count?

Or is the next new requirement you're going to come up with that they should be maximisable? Or resizable?

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RE[7]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:40 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

can you act on them? or are they just "screenhots" of apps for selection?


To expand on this: you do realise that the first windows couldn't be acted upon at all, right? They couldn't be moved or overlapped - heck, they didn't even have visible boundaries!

The gist of what I'm trying to make clear to you: just because you can't think beyond the type of window Windows or Mac OS X gives you doesn't mean that is, by definition, the only kind of window.

To beat this dead horse again: just because modern cars virtually all have airbags doesn't mean the airbag is what defines a car. For a long period of time, windows didn't have all the features you arbitrarily require of it today to be called a "window", and in fact, the Wikipedia definition recognizes this:

"In computing, a window is a visual area containing some kind of user interface. It usually has a rectangular shape that can overlap with the area of other windows. It displays the output of and may allow input to one or more processes."

Edited 2013-01-22 15:42 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Beerfloat on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Beerfloat Member since:
2011-06-05

" For example, most mobile phones represent actions as icons, and some may have menus, but very few include a pointer or run programs in a window."


Oh really?

http://postimage.org/image/aovewnt03/

Aren't those windows?
"

No, those aren't windows.

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RE[7]: Comment by Beerfloat
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 15:31 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Beerfloat"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

No, those aren't windows.


Funny. When I press and hold the back button, the current window moves down in the Z-axis to reveal the list of currently opened windows.

Are webOS' cards - which could be closed, groupe, and moved around - windows? They can do everything windows can, except resize. Is resize the crucial criterion?

I'm just trying to set a baseline here.

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