Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 21:28 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Linux "If you consider NetApplications' data set, then Linux owns only about 1 percent of the desktop OS market and Windows has almost 92 percent. But if you consider all computing platforms, including mobile, than Windows has only 20 percent and Linux has 42 percent - and that would be in the form of Google's Android alone." No more or less legitimate than claiming Windows owns 92% of the market. It's all a matter of perspective.
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RE[5]: Linux is a kernel
by lemur2 on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 07:32 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Linux is a kernel"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"Here we saw that the cost (to a consumer) per machine for a Windows desktop OS and Office suite installation was $AUD344 more than a Linux desktop and office suite installation for the exact same $599 hardware.


An ingenuous comparison. LibreOffice works just as well under Windows as it does under Linux, yet under Windows you always compare the prices as if only Microsoft Office was available for that platform.
"

I do not need to include the exorbitant costs for MS Office to make the point. My distribution for desktop Linux has 62,000 zero cost packages available for it, it comes pre-installed with a comprehensive suite of applications, and every single required package can be updated quickly and securely, guaranteed malware free, via the same updater. Windows cost $AUD109 more out of the box and comes with almost no actual, useful applications. Firstly, one needs to add a lot of additional security software to make it even part-way safe to use. One then needs to spend a great deal of time finding equivalent desktop software online, hoping that the source of each package that you chose has not added malware:

http://www.osnews.com/story/24934/VLC_Suffers_from_Companies_Spread...

Here is a 50 second video of someone using the muon package manager to search for a package, view a screenshot, read user reviews, download, install and test run a package:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKIw8O5WEp0

You can't do that with Windows. If your time is worth nothing, then by all means use free software on Windows ... but what is the point when the same free software is available for Linux, and far easier to find, download securely and install, and subsequently keep up to date with security updates?

Even then, there is quality Linux desktop software which one simply cannot get for Windows:
http://www.digikam.org/about/overview
http://www.calligra.org/
http://www.kde.org/applications/education/cantor/

There are other quality applications designed for Linux which one can get for Windows, but which do not work nearly as well on Windows:
http://www.blender.org/

Edited 2013-01-23 07:34 UTC

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RE[6]: Linux is a kernel
by WereCatf on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 09:09 in reply to "RE[5]: Linux is a kernel"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

My distribution for desktop Linux has 62,000 zero cost packages available for it


If only quantity equaled quality..

One then needs to spend a great deal of time finding equivalent desktop software online


Why would one? Most of the same stuff works under Windows just fine.

Here is a 50 second video of someone using the muon package manager


Yes, I know what package managers are. Personally I prefer Gentoo's Portage, but each to their own.

but what is the point when the same free software is available for Linux


Not all the same stuff is available for Linux.

Even then, there is quality Linux desktop software which one simply cannot get for Windows:
http://www.digikam.org/about/overview
http://www.calligra.org/
http://www.kde.org/applications/education/cantor/


Digikam: http://sourceforge.net/projects/digikam/files/digikam/2.2.0/
Calligra: http://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-packages-for-windows-released...
Cantor: "If you have windows, then you can use The KDE on Windows Project, please note that there is already a Cantor.exe ported to windows, so is not necesary build the application. Otherwise, you can build and install kdelibs from sources."

So, uhh, your point...?

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RE[7]: Linux is a kernel
by winter skies on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 10:34 in reply to "RE[6]: Linux is a kernel"
winter skies Member since:
2009-08-21

"Even then, there is quality Linux desktop software which one simply cannot get for Windows:
http://www.digikam.org/about/overview
http://www.calligra.org/
http://www.kde.org/applications/education/cantor/


Digikam: http://sourceforge.net/projects/digikam/files/digikam/2.2.0/
Calligra: http://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-packages-for-windows-released...
Cantor: "If you have windows, then you can use The KDE on Windows Project, please note that there is already a Cantor.exe ported to windows, so is not necesary build the application. Otherwise, you can build and install kdelibs from sources."

So, uhh, your point...?
"

So please try to start Digikam 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 3.0RC on Windows 7 64bit and report back your results, I'm sure we're all gonna have fun.
Just to say that developers providing executables or installers for Windows does not mean that applications just a click away on Linux work equally well on Windows, or work at all.

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