Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 22:09 UTC
Apple "Apple Inc reported quarterly revenue that slightly missed Wall Street expectations as sales of its flagship iPhone came in below target, sending its shares down more than 4 percent. The world's largest technology company shipped 47.8 million iPhones, lower than the roughly 50 million that Wall Street analysts had predicted. Sales of the iPad came in at 22.9 million in the fiscal first quarter, about in line with forecasts." I'll leave the financials to the experts, but one thing that stood out to me: Apple sold 4.2 million Macs, almost a million below expectations. How much of a future does desktop computing have at Apple? Update: The NYT/Reuters changed the title during the night. Fixed it.
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RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla
by Valhalla on Thu 24th Jan 2013 02:54 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Valhalla"
Valhalla
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2006-01-24

not least because tablets and phones are ergonomically poor for doing pretty much anything work-like, and not really all that good for anything else.

Well what I was describing was combining a 'tablet' with a mouse/keyboard for when using it for 'desktop pc' tasks and just as a 'tablet' when 'mobile'.

Mind you I'm not really arguing against you, I'm just trying to envision the future based upon the recent seemingly panicked actions from Microsoft.

Only way I can make sense of it is if they predict a strong consolidation between todays mobile 'devices' and the traditional home pc desktop.

Like you said, people will still need to do 'work' which is often not suitable with a touch interface, but why do they need to be separate devices when all that really differs (assuming the mobile hardware specs keep improving at a rapid rate) is that of a keyboard/mouse and possibly a larger screen estate?

So basically you have a 'tablet' style computer which you can bring with you anywhere and which works just fine using 'touch' for consuming information while on the move. Then when you want to 'work' you place it in some holder to be viewed as a typical desktop screen (or use it with an external screen) and connect it to your wireless keyboard/mouse and get to work, desktop-style.

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RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla
by Nelson on Thu 24th Jan 2013 04:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla"
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2005-11-29

This super amazing, futuristic device is called a Surface Pro.

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RE[4]: Comment by Valhalla
by Neolander on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla"
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Yup, and before it we had things like iPad keyboards, Asus Transformers, or Samsung tablets with styluses...

Hardware is definitely getting there, but for now, OSs & applications still don't deal well with such an environment of mixed input devices and user expectations. Either they don't even try, or they are just bad at it.

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RE[4]: Comment by Valhalla
by Valhalla on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla"
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2006-01-24

This super amazing, futuristic device is called a Surface Pro.

Well, duh, what do think I was getting at? ;D

This (or a device very similar to this) is what Microsoft is (from the looks of it) hedging their bets on for the future.

It will be interesting to see if Microsoft can fully transition to this 'post pc era' (if indeed it is what we are seeing) and end up with a large part of the 'post pc era' marketshare or if Apple and Google has already gotten too much of a head start.

Surface RT bombed so it seems clear that should Windows be able to compete in this market it needs to leverage the large amount of Windows apps and developers which is where Surface Pro come in.

However I doubt that legacy apps on the Surface Pro will 'cut it' from a average consumer perspective so there will still likely be a strong need for Metro/Surface-ified applications which needs to be written.

Also the ~4 hour battery time reported is poor, but the big thing is the price, $899 without the type cover which is another $129 from my understanding.

I can't see them competing with the Apple/Android tablets on this price, even though this, unlike Surface RT actually has a software ecosystem.

So as I see it, this means that Surface Pro is squarely aimed as the 'future' desktop/laptop consolidated device I was previously speculating about, will that niche (which is what it currently is, a 'desktop pc' in a tablet form) be attractive enough to give Microsoft a 'tablet' market share?

I'm doubtful, but it will certainly be interesting too see how it all pans out, Microsoft certainly seems to have gone 'all aboard' on the 'post pc era' bandwagon.

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RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla
by ichi on Thu 24th Jan 2013 07:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla"
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

Mind you I'm not really arguing against you, I'm just trying to envision the future based upon the recent seemingly panicked actions from Microsoft.

Only way I can make sense of it is if they predict a strong consolidation between todays mobile 'devices' and the traditional home pc desktop.


Predictions or not that's actually the only way for Microsoft to get a foothold on the tablet market: bring them close to the platform they already dominate.

Google on the other hand is trying the same thing in the opposite way with their Chromebooks.

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