Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 22:09 UTC
Apple "Apple Inc reported quarterly revenue that slightly missed Wall Street expectations as sales of its flagship iPhone came in below target, sending its shares down more than 4 percent. The world's largest technology company shipped 47.8 million iPhones, lower than the roughly 50 million that Wall Street analysts had predicted. Sales of the iPad came in at 22.9 million in the fiscal first quarter, about in line with forecasts." I'll leave the financials to the experts, but one thing that stood out to me: Apple sold 4.2 million Macs, almost a million below expectations. How much of a future does desktop computing have at Apple? Update: The NYT/Reuters changed the title during the night. Fixed it.
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RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla
by Soulbender on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Valhalla"
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

Desktop computing will be around for a long time


Sure, but the use of large, bulky and immobile desktop computers will decline and it will probably happen with some haste.

not least because tablets and phones are ergonomically poor for doing pretty much anything work-like, and not really all that good for anything else.


Attach a proper keyboard, mouse and a USB drive and you can do most desktop tasks on a tablet with ease. Desktops will still be around for demanding tasks but most user's will be fine with a flexible tablet.

The "post-PC era" just means web sites need to be accessible to mobile interfaces


What the rather stupid term Post-PC mean is the decline of desktop computing.

PC sales are slowing down because your old PC is good enough.


Right and with more and more powerful and flexible mobile systems why would you buy a desktop once your old desktop no longer is good enough?

Edited 2013-01-24 06:24 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla
by Neolander on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla"
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2010-03-08

"PC sales are slowing down because your old PC is good enough."

Right and with more and more powerful and flexible mobile systems why would you buy a desktop once your old desktop no longer is good enough?

I guess the same reasons why people buy desktops instead of - or in addition to - laptops today would still apply. Stuff like an increased value for the price in "static" use cases, larger and higher-quality screens, better ergonomics when you want to work for an extended period of time, more flexible and robust hardware, easier sharing within a family...

Not everyone needs a desktop, but those desktops which haven't been replaced by laptops likely won't be replaced by tablets either. Only laptops need to be afraid of the rise of touchscreen devices, as soon as the software on these things grows up beyond the "Fisher Price, my first computer" stage.

A cellphone/tablet docking mechanism which doesn't suck could remove some of the aforementioned advantages of desktops over laptops, but AFAIK, no one has been seriously working in such a direction so far.

Edited 2013-01-24 06:39 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Valhalla
by Soulbender on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Stuff like an increased value for the price in "static" use cases


True but tablets are already pretty cheap. Either way, this still spells the decline of desktop computing.

larger and higher-quality screens


Well, what if you can connect a larger monitor to your tablet?

screens, better ergonomics when you want to work for an extended period of time


I really don't see how a desktop would provide better ergonomics in the case where the tablet has an external mouse and keyboard.

Not everyone needs a desktop, but those desktops which haven't been replaced by laptops likely won't be replaced by tablets either.


True but they won't last forever and when they die, or are no longer "good enough", they're unlikely to be replaced by another desktop.

Edited 2013-01-24 06:44 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla
by moondevil on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

Sure, but the use of large, bulky and immobile desktop computers will decline and it will probably happen with some haste.


I thought it did already.

Since 2001 I only use laptops privately and at work since 2006 we use laptops with docking station.

The only place for towers is servers.

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RE[4]: Comment by Valhalla
by Soulbender on Thu 24th Jan 2013 06:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

The only place for towers is servers.


God no, that's the place for rack mounts. Dunno where the heck towers belong anymore ;)

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RE[4]: Comment by Valhalla
by sgtrock on Thu 24th Jan 2013 15:43 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla"
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2011-05-13

Nahh, the best place for towers is under BYOC hobbyists' desks. Like mine. ;-)

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RE[3]: Comment by Valhalla
by lustyd on Sun 27th Jan 2013 21:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Valhalla"
lustyd Member since:
2008-06-19

"Attach a proper keyboard, mouse and a USB drive and you can do most desktop tasks on a tablet with ease. Desktops will still be around for demanding tasks but most user's will be fine with a flexible tablet."

Not in the business world. I recently interviewed one person from every team in a large company (it took a LOOOONG time). The vast majority of business users never leave their desk, and certainly won't be taking a device with them when they leave for the day. It's quite depressing finding out what the "normals" do for a living, because it turns out to be boring and repetitive. A few examples:
number of call center workers needing laptop/tablet = 0
number of receptionists needing laptop/tablet = 0
number of typists needing laptop/tablet = 0
number of people working in accounts (not accountants) needing laptop/tablet = 0
even more depressing is number of first line IT workers needing laptop/tablet = 0

I agree there will be a HUGE shift towards mobile compute, but in the business space it will be far less than you think, and more likely we will see VESA mount micro computers taking over to reduce desk space used

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