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I'm not 100% sure to be honest. I think they used the existing line when I signed up, just replacing my master phone socket with an ethernet -RJ45- socket.
The other thing: this new site being advertised in the UK, Broadbandchoices.co.uk, show you something important about BT infinity: the speed may be quoted the same, the price may be similar or cheaper, but the data is capped. VM isn't, and like I mentioned - you might well have your data shaped at peak, but I can still stream Netflix all day without hitting any buffering on my Wii or iPad/Nexus 7. BT Infinity is also still very niche, and we certainly don't get it yet in my area.
I've heard some people comment about the capping on BT, but I've actually found them to be highly forgiving. Though I will concede this is purely my own anecdotal evidence and my usage isn't really typical (most of my heavy traffic is over night and nearly all of my traffic is encrypted either as HTTPS or tunnelled via SSH. Plus I don't really do torrents (bar Linux CDs and creative commons content as I feel guilty stealing the bandwidth hehe)
Edited 2013-01-24 18:10 UTC
Yeah - honestly don't know if it is really capped... but the 30mbs VM listed is not, where as the at the same level BT Infinity is listed as being capped. Given the monthly cost (removing all the gumph and free periods) is more or less the same, I'd go with VM given the choice. I know their ADSL was always capped (though I don't know what they define as "capped", it might just be traffic shaping or reduced speeds.)
The thing that really grinds my nads is the BT self congratulatory adverts. Crap like having the best "WIFI" speeds (because, you know, every other base station using N is obviously inferior to the BT Home Hub - in some fantasy world), and those awful students that look like they're in their 30's. Just about any provider that isn't BT is preferable, even if they still use the BT exchanges and wiring. /rant-off




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BT Infinity: 76Mbs
Both of those are just downstream speeds (I *think* VM offer 10Mb upstream. BT offer 19Mbs).
I *think* VM does have better up speeds, but they are not standard and the user ends up paying a lot more. They might only be for business use (though then you get in to the wonderful world of Cable and Wireless.)
I think it depends. Some areas VM are fibre to cabinet, copper to the door, but their cabling is (IMO) better, as the cables are designed for high capacity broadcast TV, rather than phone traffic (saying that, do BT Fibre installs come over the standard phone line up to the door, or do they cable like VM do?)
The problem with BT is that it's all very random still. VM, you either get close to the best quoted speed or you don't get anything because they aren't in that area. Unless your local loop is saturated, the speeds are very consistent. With BT, you will hardly ever come close to the advertised speed, and ADSL up speeds are fairly dismal compared to either fibre offering.
The other thing: this new site being advertised in the UK, Broadbandchoices.co.uk, show you something important about BT infinity: the speed may be quoted the same, the price may be similar or cheaper, but the data is capped. VM isn't, and like I mentioned - you might well have your data shaped at peak, but I can still stream Netflix all day without hitting any buffering on my Wii or iPad/Nexus 7. BT Infinity is also still very niche, and we certainly don't get it yet in my area.
Edited 2013-01-24 15:02 UTC