Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Jan 2013 14:20 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Buried deep within Nokia's press release about its financial results, there's a line that pretty much signals the end of one of the most popular and successful mobile operating systems in history. With Nokia retiring its use, Symbian is no more.
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Comment by winter skies
by winter skies on Tue 29th Jan 2013 09:21 UTC
winter skies
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2009-08-21

I don't get the wishful thinking that Nokia would just die. I wish some commenters would experience getting laid off before they started wishing for the death of another company because they personally dislike a product.


How funny. Spare us any lecture about morality. As usual with regard to Nokia, you're promoting your personal view as the ultimate truth, but in doing so you're twisting some facts.
Doesn't it come to your mind, or are you wilfully neglecting, that many of the layoffs occurred just because of the strategy shift, or - being too kind - because of the notoriously incompetent way in which it was managed?
There would have been some anyway, but it is evident that the downsizing would have been far less dramatic.
Moreover, Nokia had at least four in-house developed OS's when Elop came - asked by the board, never forget that - three were in production, one in development. Three of them - the most advanced - were killed.

How can an OS enthusiast or a Nokia lover forget that? Why can't you distinguish between supporting/liking a company and agreeing with any decision its management makes?
Some have/had a sweet spot for Nokia and suffered seeing it dismembered, seeing its expensive but so advanced OS developing division vanish and great talents forced to find a new way without the backing of a large company behind their ideas, seeing a European success story turning into a freefall, seeing two promising OS's plus Symbian making their way into oblivion, research centers closing and Nokia turning into an OEM tied to an American company who never managed to rule the mobile market like Nokia itself was ruling just months before the shift.

If you looked at it this way, you'd be quite concerned about the future of a once-great company betting all their fortunes on another company's product, thus being forced to follow an externally imposed schedule instead of being able to shape their destiny. You all know Microsoft got so much more than Nokia from the deal.
Nokia had a huge patrimony of ideas and a unique - not perfect, but different from what you find in the US - company culture. All of that is gone, possibly forever. That's a crime you cannot condone.

[EDIT: fixed a non-complete sentence.]

Edited 2013-01-29 09:23 UTC

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RE: Comment by winter skies
by zima on Fri 1st Feb 2013 17:18 in reply to "Comment by winter skies"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Nokia had at least four in-house developed OS's when Elop came - asked by the board, never forget that - three were in production, one in development. Three of them - the most advanced - were killed.

How can an OS enthusiast or a Nokia lover forget that? Why can't you distinguish between supporting/liking a company and agreeing with any decision its management makes?
Some have/had a sweet spot for Nokia and suffered seeing it dismembered, seeing its expensive but so advanced OS developing division vanish [...] seeing a European success story turning into a freefall

Nokia was in freefall for several years before Elop, many people in turn just refuse to see that because of their emotional investment with "old Nokia"

Those expensive OS division pursuits were giving very mediocre results. 2-3 years ago the Symbian R&D alone was eating more money than the entire R&D of Apple.
Moreover, the one OS which remains (and which was funding that lavish R&D all the time), S40, sees nice improvement recently, under Elop.

I had a sweet spot for Nokia too - but I mostly got over it, I suggest you do the same.

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