Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Jan 2013 22:38 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Acer, the Taiwanese computer maker that's suffered two consecutive annual losses, posted strong sales of notebooks using Google's Chrome platform after the release of Microsoft's Windows 8 failed to ignite the market. Chrome-based models accounted for 5 percent to 10 percent of Acer's U.S. shipments since being released there in November, President Jim Wong said in an interview at the Taipei-based company's headquarters. That ratio is expected to be sustainable in the long term and the company is considering offering Chrome models in other developed markets, he said." HP is also planning a Chrome OS laptop, and it's been at the top of Amazon's charts (whatever that means) for a while now. In case you haven't noticed - the desktop world, too, is changing. Nobody wants Windows 8 (touch or no), so OEMs are finally looking elsewhere. We're finally getting what we wanted 13 years ago.
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RE[2]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Tue 29th Jan 2013 09:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

"The cloud" is fine once it's yours: owncloud, SoGo, roundcube, ...
It helps you getting your data from everywhere, and to everyone _you_ want to give it.

True. I do run some services myself (eg Subsonic, my own hosting photo gallery, etc).

Even then though, I still dislike OSs that push processing away from native binary clients. eg webmail is great - possibly the best example of the 'cloud' in fact - but I still want a binary client that I can run locally. If just in case of emergencies (loss of internet, backing up stuff from the cloud, etc)

Edited 2013-01-29 09:32 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Laurence
by pgeorgi on Tue 29th Jan 2013 09:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Laurence"
pgeorgi Member since:
2010-02-18

If just in case of emergencies (loss of internet, backing up stuff from the cloud, etc)

loss of internet is mostly worked around by html5 local storage - which will take another 2 years or so for widespread use.

But I actually expect chromeos, firefox, etc to push this forward.
For backup, downloading a zip with all data is probably the way to go.

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Tue 29th Jan 2013 09:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

HTML5 local storage is insecure[1] and ZIP files aren't as easily searched as a client with built in search tools against indexed content.

Of course, there will always be ways you can work around the limitations of the web; Javascript runtimes have come a long way and many web apps these days are pretty sophisticated. Plus I'm not ignorant to some of the unique benefits they offer (eg easy to roll out bug fixes). But native apps have their own benefits as well; they're generally more responsive, can be better secured for offline content and they integrate with the host OS better (this is even the case on many platforms that are internet orientated devices; eg smartphone and tablet OSs).

So while I do appreciate that you're trying to demonstrate that you can replicate some functionality in HTML5, it's really not at a stage where it's ready to replace native binaries entirely.

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOaRle4Pw8

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RE[4]: Comment by Laurence
by lucas_maximus on Tue 29th Jan 2013 13:17 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Laurence"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

One caveat though, local storage has a size limits of a sort.

http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html#limitations

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