Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Jan 2013 18:47 UTC
"Microsoft's Surface Pro tablet, due on February 9th, will have a smaller amount of storage space than expected. A company spokesperson has confirmed to The Verge that the 64GB edition of Surface Pro will have 23GB of free storage out of the box. The 128GB model will have 83GB of free storage. It appears that the Windows 8 install, built-in apps, and a recovery partition will make up the 41GB total on the base Surface Pro model." Oh Microsoft.
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RE: Let me play the devil's advocate (at least partially)
by avgalen on Wed 30th Jan 2013 17:37
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As I said:
Win 8 x86 = 5 GB
Win 8 x64 = 8 GB
That difference is only partly because x64 binaries are bigger than x86 binaries. The real difference are all the bits and pieces that are present in both x64 and x86 despite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64.
I am a big Windows lover, but losing this much space is WAY over the top. I have less space left on a 64 GB Surface Pro than on a 32 GB iPad.
Just for experimenting I extracted the Windows 8 x64 Enterprise wim file to a 16 GB USB Stick (effectively creating a 16 GB Windows 8 To Go), booted from it, finished the installation, kept the default apps, installed drivers and Office and everything still worked. About 4 GB diskspace remaining, so all that is actually needed for a working Surface 8 Pro + Office 2013 is 12 GB.
If I can do it in half a day and with only the tools that are available by default in Windows 8 then Microsoft should be able to do a much better job
RE: Let me play the devil's advocate (at least partially)
by darknexus on Wed 30th Jan 2013 21:55
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Keep in mind that ARM binaries tend to be larger than x86 binaries due to the fact that all instructions on 32-bit ARM (unless using thumb) are 4-byte long unlike x86 which has a variable length for instructions.
An excellent point, except that we're talking about Surface Pro which does not run on ARM, but on X64.
RE[2]: Let me play the devil's advocate (at least partially)
by eantoranz on Thu 31st Jan 2013 14:05
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so you only get 23 Gbs from a 64 GBs (as advertised) device.... how lovely! That sucks, no matter how you wanna see it.
As a side note, about people asking why the bare system would take up 41 GBs when compared with a regular desktop/laptop/netbook, whatever, even with a lot of software installed on them. Keep in mind that ARM binaries tend to be larger than x86 binaries due to the fact that all instructions on 32-bit ARM (unless using thumb) are 4-byte long unlike x86 which has a variable length for instructions.
I think that's still no excuse for having a system take 41 GBs as a whole when "just installed" but it's a factor when making the comparison.
I for one won't buy any, for sure... even it it only took 1 GB of room and let me with 63 GBs to play with.