Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd Feb 2013 00:02 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Apple "Thirty years ago, Apple unveiled the Apple Lisa, a pioneering machine that introduced the mouse-driven graphical user interface to a wide audience and opened a new chapter in personal computer history. The Mac borrowed heavily from the Lisa, and the Mac went on to great things while the Lisa floundered. As a result, it's tempting to treat the Lisa as merely a footnote in the history of Apple. But as anyone who has used a real Lisa knows, Apple's first GUI-based computer played host to many distinctive quirks and traits that tend to get overlooked in the history books. The machine's 30th anniversary is as good a time as any to take a look at a handful of both odd and useful features that truly made the Lisa something unique." A bit lacking in the meat department, but still fun.
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RE[7]: No
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 3rd Feb 2013 20:56 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: No"
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

Considering the price I don't thing it really mattered if it was crap or the best thing since sliced bread: no one could afford one.

Actually, something that costs so much that no normal person can afford damn well better be top-notch quality! So the few people who paid out their ass just got a buggy, poorly designed system? Wow... seriously, it's almost starting to seem like this thing was specially designed to be a failure.

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RE[8]: No
by MOS6510 on Mon 4th Feb 2013 05:53 in reply to "RE[7]: No"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Why is it a buggy system? I have a feeling you're saying this because of the date "limitation". I don't think there are many computers that would last 12 years. The Amiga came and went after the Lisa before the year 1995 arrived.

The Lisa may have been expensive, but so was the IBM PC. The IBM PC was even more expensive and it was the lesser computer (if you forget about available software).

The targeted audience wasn't, probably, the people at home, but the business world, just like the IBM PC. During that time people used home computers at home like the VIC-20, Commodore 64, ZX Spectrum and later the MSX line, Atari ST, Amiga.

It does make you wonder why these home computers were more fun, had better sounds/graphics and even better GUIs than the Lisa/Mac/PC, but were much cheaper and why the PC still won out in the end.

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RE[9]: No
by zima on Wed 6th Feb 2013 18:36 in reply to "RE[8]: No"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

It does make you wonder why these home computers were more fun, had better sounds/graphics and even better GUIs than the Lisa/Mac/PC, but were much cheaper and why the PC still won out in the end.

I guess it was a combination of two primary factors. At first (at the beginning): "no one was ever fired for buying IBM".

And the second: ...just look at the proportions in the graph at http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share/5/ (also page 6). With such onslaught, the economies of scale did the rest - and the PC became the best choice from some point on.


BTW Lisa - one Lisa 2 used as a web server: http://www.lisa2.com/
Now I'll perhaps find some emulator...

Edited 2013-02-06 18:45 UTC

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