Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Feb 2013 22:10 UTC
Google "People are, unsurprisingly, upset that Microsoft have imposed UEFI Secure Boot on the x86 market. A situation in which one company gets to determine which software will boot on systems by default is obviously open to abuse. What's more surprising is that many of the people who are upset about this are completely fine with encouraging people to buy Chromebooks. Out of the box, Chromebooks are even more locked down than Windows 8 machines." Good point.
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RE: One little difference
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 4th Feb 2013 22:43 UTC in reply to "One little difference"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

You can easily turn SecureBoot off on a Chromebook, even the ARM version. Enable developer mode, and there you go. Can I turn that off on an RT tablet?


So you didn't read the article.

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RE[2]: One little difference
by chithanh on Mon 4th Feb 2013 23:37 in reply to "RE: One little difference"
chithanh Member since:
2006-06-18

So you didn't read the article.

Yeah, the article's title is misleading. So people only reading the title will get the wrong impression that this is about disabling secure boot, when it's actually the opposite.

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cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

Yeah, the article's title is misleading.

I actually think the title is plain wrong, it should be "Don't like Secure Boot? Buy a Chromebook." Since your choice is either secure boot and chromeos, or no secure boot and other oses. So really, if you don't like secure boot, chromebooks are good options.

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RE[2]: One little difference
by TechGeek on Tue 5th Feb 2013 00:21 in reply to "RE: One little difference"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

"You can easily turn SecureBoot off on a Chromebook, even the ARM version. Enable developer mode, and there you go. Can I turn that off on an RT tablet?


So you didn't read the article.
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Actually he has a good point, depending on how you define security. I don't consider a Microsoft tablet with RT secure as Microsoft is likely watching what you do. The same with the Chromebook with its native OS. I don't care how impossible it is to bypass Microsoft's security protocols since I don't trust Microsoft to start with. I do trust open software that anyone can vet for privacy breaches. And the Chromebook with dev mode lets me set up a device I can actually trust.

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RE[3]: One little difference
by Morgan on Tue 5th Feb 2013 01:17 in reply to "RE[2]: One little difference"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

It comes down to local security versus freedom of choice. If you want to choose to install your own OS, you must disable the security features of the firmware that prevent modified and/or unsigned kernels from being installed locally. You gain control over the hardware but lose the first line of defense. At that point it's up to you to harden your system, and if local security isn't a priority then you are left with a device not much different from previous generation x86 laptops.

Edit: deleted that flawed house analogy after re-reading it. Sorry.

Edited 2013-02-05 01:19 UTC

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RE[2]: One little difference
by segedunum on Tue 5th Feb 2013 00:31 in reply to "RE: One little difference"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

The statement that Chromebooks are more locked down than Windows 8 machines is somewhat wide of the mark for the reasons the OP stated.

Garrett also states this:

In contrast to Chromebooks, Windows 8 certified systems are required to permit the user to install their own keys.

Anyone who believes this will be implemented on all but the most expensive of motherboards has taken leave of their senses.

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RE[3]: One little difference
by mjg59 on Tue 5th Feb 2013 00:52 in reply to "RE[2]: One little difference"
mjg59 Member since:
2005-10-17

In which case you can doubtless provide multiple examples of Windows 8 certified hardware that doesn't have this feature, right?

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