Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 11:23 UTC
Windows And there we are - the Surface Pro reviews are in. Reading through them all, there's clearly a common theme, and it's not particularly positive. We're a few months in now, so I think we can finally call it: Windows 8 and Surface are the wrong way to go.
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kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

BS. Any site that only writes drama and hyperbole will loose clicks very quickly.

I totally agree with Thom, Surface and Windows 8 are full of fail.

In germany you can get a Zenbook + Nexus 7 for less this the Surface. Those two give you a much better experience.

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chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

"Any site that only writes drama and hyperbole will loose [sic] clicks very quickly."

Clearly you are not familiar with journalism

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Priest Member since:
2006-05-12

This is true of Journalism in general but the reviews linked were Anandtech, TheVerge, Engadget, and Arstechnica. I read them often enough to know I can generally trust their collective opinion on something.

Some quotes from the Arstechnica conclusion:

"From the tablet perspective, Surface Pro is not acceptable. It gets too hot for a hand-held device, its battery life is woefully inadequate, and it's too thick and heavy to be comfortable to hand hold for long sessions."

"From a laptop perspective, Surface Pro falls down too. The traditional laptop has a stiff hinge to hold the screen at an angle of your choosing. It is hard to understate the importance of this hinge....The Surface kickstand offers me none of that. It puts the screen at the right angle when my desk is a particular height, but at any other height it's the wrong angle"

"In practice, the Surface RT and Surface Pro have a bigger footprint on my lap even than my old 15-inch MacBook Pro. And if I move a little, whomp, the screen drops off the back of my knees and folds out of sight."

These points are all pretty valid even if you ignore that the specs on paper are't that great of a deal.

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bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

I am a firm believer in logic and understanding: If you look and can truly understand a thing then you can see where it will do good and where it will not so lets try that right now:

What IS Windows, what causes people to buy this product over other products? This is quite simple it is OLD SOFTWARE that drives sales of Windows, everyone from businesses to your grandma has some Windows software they want to run and THAT is why they buy Windows. They don't buy it for the brand, they don't buy it to only run the software it comes with like a lot of cellphones end up doing, they buy Windows because they have software they need to run and Windows has (more or less) been backwards compatible for eons.

When you look and understand this its obvious why Win 8 and Surface will fail, all that software wasn't written for touch or a hybrid UI and frankly doesn't run well AT ALL in such an environment. I'm sure everyone saw the little cartoon I posted by a tech writer who tried win 8 and couldn't find how to do basic tasks like "How to make a recovery disc" and actually had to use a Win 7 PC to Google how to do things with his Win 8 PC, this is because there is almost NO context or clues given to the user, you are supposed to "know" the commands and terms which most just won't. Hell I even had this problem, the "charms bar" WTF? Its a sidebar, looks like a sidebar, is in the place both Vista and Win 7 put the sidebar/gadgets by default, so how am I supposed to know ctrl+C brings this up?

At the end of the day it can do nothing but fail as it ignores the entire purpose of Windows, which is to get out of your way and let you run your third party software. Hell look at how many are perfectly happy with XP, they don't care that its dated it gets out of their way and lets them run the software they care about so its just fine to them. Until MSFT stops aping Apple and takes a page from IBM and sells services and support for what is a mature product instead of trying to become "hip and cool" then all we'll see is fail fail fail.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

It's not so simple, never was... a lot of people grab Windows because that's what comes with their new laptop (and nothing bad with that, really; they are mostly happy that way). Also, nowadays many people use their PC mostly for www, plus some general needs (like media player or IM) covered by generic software.

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