Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 11:23 UTC
Windows And there we are - the Surface Pro reviews are in. Reading through them all, there's clearly a common theme, and it's not particularly positive. We're a few months in now, so I think we can finally call it: Windows 8 and Surface are the wrong way to go.
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RE[2]: Comment by ephracis
by ephracis on Wed 6th Feb 2013 14:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by ephracis"
ephracis
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2007-09-23

I would argue that it doesn't matter if Windows Phone is not popular among smartphones. It still has more apps than Windows RT and besides, the bet that people would enjoy their x86 apps on tablets through Windows 8 seems to not work very well when you consider battery life, heat, device size and price.

It seems that consumer don't consider these trades to be worth the ability to use their usual programs on a tablet. I bet it's because the vast amount of apps available on both tablets and phones. There is no big need for the usual x86 apps on tablets.

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RE[3]: Comment by ephracis
by Nelson on Thu 7th Feb 2013 03:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ephracis"
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2005-11-29

What about when the Windows Store surpasses the Windows Phone Store? What then? I'm convinced there is more momentum behind the Windows Store than the Windows Phone Store (and it is a tragedy, but a reality).

I think it was smart to not scale up Windows Phone unless Microsoft was ready to make Windows Phone a 1st class citizen within Microsoft. Not some barely acknowledged science project which is almost completely shut out by WinDiv.

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RE[3]: Comment by ephracis
by cdude on Thu 7th Feb 2013 11:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ephracis"
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2008-09-21

Its not about x86 vs ARM at all and not about UX either. Its all about API's. See, tuning a UI to work acceptable or even good on touch and different form factors is porting-work, compiling x86 code on x86 and ARM is porting-work BUT replacing the win32 API with a totally different Metro API is rewrite-work. The later is just not acceptable IF there is no way to ROI anytime soon cause of the massive investment needed for little gain.

Serious, IF you rewrite THEN it makes more sense to do in a cross-platform way to be able to deliver the result to markets where customers and money are (iOS and Android) and not to a ~2% niche market ONLY (and heck, Metro-API is highly incompatible to anything else including win32 making it an ONLY rather then a ALSO platform).

Microsoft shot itself in the foot by raising the maintainence and porting and rewrite cost so much that ISV's are not going to jump in and on but jump away to competition. All that at a time where they are late and vulnerable already anyways. Its not the 90's any longer and Microsoft has no monopoly, no critical mass to force there incompatibility onto ISV's, partners and sales. They need to adjust. They did not realize that yet. This Vista 2.0 may change that. Hopefully.

Edited 2013-02-07 11:43 UTC

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