Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 13:29 UTC
Games "Sources with first-hand experience of Microsoft's next generation console have told us that although the next Xbox will be absolutely committed to online functionality, games will still be made available to purchase in physical form. Next Xbox games will be manufactured on 50GB-capacity Blu-ray discs, Microsoft having conceded defeat to Sony following its ill-fated backing of the HD-DVD format. It is believed that games purchased on disc will ship with activation codes, and will have no value beyond the initial user." Crap like this should be illegal. If I can't buy second-hand games at my local favourite game store, Microsoft can shove this new Xbox where the sun don't shine. Which it obviously doesn't do in Redmond if they can come up with this kind of user-hostile bullshit. You can pretty much guarantee that they have made a silent agreement with Sony to implement similar anti-user feature on the next Playstation.
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RE: Steam
by lucas_maximus on Wed 6th Feb 2013 17:13 UTC in reply to "Steam"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

It funny how people are disgusted by this, but don't have a problem with Steam which is essentially the same thing.

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RE[2]: Steam
by ze_jerkface on Wed 6th Feb 2013 18:23 in reply to "RE: Steam"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

I'm disgusted by both and Steam fans sicken me.

For years I heard about how Steam is great since they will "pass on the savings" but no one explained why Steam wouldn't just take the retailer's cut.

Black Ops 2 is still $60 on Steam and yet you can find the retail Xbox version for $50. Where did the savings go?

The worst thing gamers can do is cheer away retail discounting and used game pricing pressure. Microsoft, Sony and Steam are not your pals and just want your goddamn money. Retail discounting and used games are unwanted competition for them, it's really that simple.

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RE[3]: Steam
by henderson101 on Wed 6th Feb 2013 18:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Steam"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I have about 20 games on steam, most are cross platform and all were either bundled (in one of those pay what you want Humble Bundle Games deals) or were under $5. Do I care that they are tied to Steam? Not really - makes it easy to set up a new PC or Mac. As few cost me any sizeable chunk of cash, none really matter to me, plus about half of them came with DRM free downloadable versions too (Steam was an added "bonus".)

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RE[3]: Steam
by snowbender on Wed 6th Feb 2013 21:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Steam"
snowbender Member since:
2006-05-04

Black Ops 2 is still $60 on Steam and yet you can find the retail Xbox version for $50. Where did the savings go?


Did you find Black Ops 2 for PC cheaper than 60$ in retail then? (No point mentioning the Xbox version since it's not the same thing.) It's not because you have Steam installed on your pc, that you can no longer buy games from retail. Actually, depending on where I get the better deal, I buy the game from retail or from Steam.

You mention Black Ops 2. I noticed that the retail price of Black Ops was pretty high (definitely until before Black Ops 2 was released) even though that game is already a couple years old... The price for Black Ops was high both on Steam and on retail (50 euro). I was surprised by that because I have the impression that in recent years most games drop in price a lot faster than about 5 years ago. I noticed that with most popular (PC) games the price starts around 50-60 euro, and drops to 25-30 euro after only a couple of months. But Black Ops stayed on 50 euro after over a year and I still don't get why.

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RE[2]: Steam
by yester64 on Fri 8th Feb 2013 03:57 in reply to "RE: Steam"
yester64 Member since:
2012-07-28

It funny how people are disgusted by this, but don't have a problem with Steam which is essentially the same thing.


Thats why i rather buy my games from GoG than from Steam. I do like Steam since it has also the community aspect, but i don't play much online really.
The other thing that i think is valuable on Steam are the Indie games that are promoted.
Before people sold their account over ebay but that is outlawed too. Not sure if that ever was legal anyway.

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