Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 13:29 UTC
Games "Sources with first-hand experience of Microsoft's next generation console have told us that although the next Xbox will be absolutely committed to online functionality, games will still be made available to purchase in physical form. Next Xbox games will be manufactured on 50GB-capacity Blu-ray discs, Microsoft having conceded defeat to Sony following its ill-fated backing of the HD-DVD format. It is believed that games purchased on disc will ship with activation codes, and will have no value beyond the initial user." Crap like this should be illegal. If I can't buy second-hand games at my local favourite game store, Microsoft can shove this new Xbox where the sun don't shine. Which it obviously doesn't do in Redmond if they can come up with this kind of user-hostile bullshit. You can pretty much guarantee that they have made a silent agreement with Sony to implement similar anti-user feature on the next Playstation.
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Truthfully though second hand games are such a rip off.

Second hand games cost less than new games. If you think they are overpriced then buy new. It's called a choice and getting rid of that choice will take away pricing pressure on new games and so even gamers who buy all new will be affected by this.

Also to the steam argument, one thing Steam has going for it which actually adds a lot of value, is the fact that once you buy a game, that game license is valid on any platform Steam supports.

How is that value for the majority of gamers that only run Windows? With retail I can play a game without needing to get Valve's permission and when I am done I can give it to a friend or charity. I have given dozens of games to charity but now we get to march towards a future of $80 lifetime rentals under a megacorp's ever-changing terms.

I did not put up with Steam's $60 digital games sheep shearing BULLSHIT and if Microsoft/Sony pulls the same stunt then I will divert my entertainment funds to other venues. I don't even buy used games so they will have to make up my losses from someone else.

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delta0.delta0 Member since:

I agree with what your saying and see it already with the vita and the ps3, it pisses me off that a digital download costs more than physical media. The single biggest thing PS has going for it is PS+ Most of the games I would wait to buy after a price drop are in PS+ for the £40 a year rental price, ps+ has become a next gen rental service of sorts.

I have no disagreements with the choice argument, in fact I prefer physical because I can sell the games on ebay or give them away or sell them on play. I don't give them to charity (never occurred to me to do that, but that's a good idea) usually when I get rid of my old console I end up donating it to some young kid with all of the games for them to enjoy, which digital just wont allow and I can lend out the physical copy to a friend, basically I completely agree with you.

"How is that value for the majority of gamers that only run Windows?

Steam is pushing its platform heavily onto Linux and I wont have to buy the games again to play on Linux. The biggest problem with consoles are that hardware changes make previous gen games useless on the new gen platform, at least Steam the games remain on the same platform ie x86 / x64 which will mean they will work regardless of hardware changes, the PS / Xbox alternative will be so much more limited.

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ze_jerkface Member since:

I agree with what your saying and see it already with the vita and the ps3, it pisses me off that a digital download costs more than physical media.

That's a really good point and I'm glad you brought it up.

I'm not familiar with the Vita but I know with the PSP Go Sony kept most of the library at a fixed price even for games that were half the price at retail.

Retailers put pressure on gaming companies to lower prices to boost sales and the retailers themselves will sometimes take a hit as part of a promotion. Companies like Wal-mart and Target don't even care that much about profits from game sales, what they really want is for you to buy games from them to get you in the store so you pick up anything else you need while you are there.

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