Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 11:23 UTC
Windows And there we are - the Surface Pro reviews are in. Reading through them all, there's clearly a common theme, and it's not particularly positive. We're a few months in now, so I think we can finally call it: Windows 8 and Surface are the wrong way to go.
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Virus scanner
by bram on Thu 7th Feb 2013 01:11 UTC
bram
Member since:
2009-04-03

The most damning part of this contraption: you need to run a virus scanner on your 'tablet'.

The little computational power advantage it may have on an iPad is quickly gobbled up by virus scanners, crapware, adware and malware.

If during the lifetime of my iPad I install and deinstall a 1000 apps, the performance will be the same as the day I bought it. Let's see microsoft do this with their device. Install a 1000 apps, deinstall them, and see what has happened to the registry, boot times, wake up times, operating speed.

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RE: Virus scanner
by Nelson on Thu 7th Feb 2013 06:15 in reply to "Virus scanner"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Just install Windows Store apps, they run in an isolated sandbox.

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RE: Virus scanner
by lucas_maximus on Thu 7th Feb 2013 10:22 in reply to "Virus scanner"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

The little computational power advantage it may have on an iPad is quickly gobbled up by virus scanners, crapware, adware and malware.


Not these arguments again.

Windows only has these problems because people willy nilly install crap, the same problem is evident with novice ubuntu wannabes take Remastersys and install every service and application under the sun.

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RE[2]: Virus scanner
by cdude on Thu 7th Feb 2013 12:17 in reply to "RE: Virus scanner"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Yeah, dump customers. If they not install anything, not browse the internet and not email there is no problem. Clearly customers fault.

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RE: Virus scanner
by darknexus on Thu 7th Feb 2013 15:53 in reply to "Virus scanner"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

The most damning part of this contraption: you need to run a virus scanner on your 'tablet'.

Bullshit. There's nothing a virus scanner can do for you that you yourself can't do with some fucking common sense. If you're dumb enough to download "1000 Free Gamez and crackz," then you deserve whatever you get and it doesn't matter what os you're running. The same applies if you just click yes to every damned thing that pops up without reading it.

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RE[2]: Virus scanner
by lucas_maximus on Thu 7th Feb 2013 18:25 in reply to "RE: Virus scanner"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I run with a Virus Scanner on just in case I make a mistake. If a Virus scanner is half decent, it doesn't kill performance.

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RE[2]: Virus scanner
by bert64 on Fri 8th Feb 2013 09:09 in reply to "RE: Virus scanner"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

What is it with this myth that malware only comes from dodgy websites, warez and user stupidity?

There are plenty of drive-by exploits which don't require user interaction, or don't require users to do anything they don't normally do.
Legit websites get hacked to spread malware...
Malware can come via physical media rather than the network.
Malware can easily come from people you know and/or trust who have been infected.
Store bought media and other devices have been known to arrive already infected.
There is plenty of malware masquerading as legitimate software, and since windows didn't provide a central repository until recently and most software doesn't use it anyway, users are forced to search for it themselves and will often fall victim to malicious versions.

AV is obviously deeply flawed, but then so is the underlying system and AV acts to reduce the impact of those flaws at the expense of performance. The most effective way for users, especially non technical ones to avoid this overhead is to use a system like iOS which is tightly controlled by a (hopefully competent) external party.

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