Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Feb 2013 11:23 UTC
Windows And there we are - the Surface Pro reviews are in. Reading through them all, there's clearly a common theme, and it's not particularly positive. We're a few months in now, so I think we can finally call it: Windows 8 and Surface are the wrong way to go.
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RE[4]: Virus scanner
by REM2000 on Thu 7th Feb 2013 14:12 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Virus scanner"
REM2000
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2006-07-25

i generally agree with you, a pure application will not have an impact on Windows.

However it's easy to install apps that slowly but surely grind Windows into the ground. Say you install Adobe Reader (free one) that installs a background update checker that runs every time you boot windows, it also then installs a plugin into IE which again gets started when you open IE, finally if you have outlook, outlook will then load the PDF plugin.

Overall this one application that is simply viewing PDF's is having 'an' impact on the machine, slowing (slightly) the boot, slowing IE and slowing Outlook. Of course being a power user you can disable a lot of that and windows 8 improves things by allowing users to easily view startup items in the task manager, however for your average joe, installing apps does start slowing windows down.

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RE[5]: Virus scanner
by lucas_maximus on Thu 7th Feb 2013 15:03 in reply to "RE[4]: Virus scanner"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Again all of it is trivial to turn off. Also tbh, any OS does this (MacOSX does the same, I hear the designers say the same).

It a consequence of being able to run what you want.

Edited 2013-02-07 15:13 UTC

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RE[6]: Virus scanner
by darknexus on Thu 7th Feb 2013 15:51 in reply to "RE[5]: Virus scanner"
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2008-07-15

Again all of it is trivial to turn off.

Of course it is, if you understand the concepts. Remember, from the point of view of the majority of users, they just "installed that Adobe Reader thingy" and now their computer slowed down a bit. We know we can turn these background updaters and plugins off. Unfortunately, most people don't even have a concept that a program is multiple parts. It's "that Flash thing" or "that pdf thing" and they no more understand all the crap it installs than most of us would understand the inner workings of subatomic particles.

Also tbh, any OS does this (MacOSX does the same, I hear the designers say the same).

Well, strictly speaking, it's not the os that does it in either case. I will say though, most OS X programs are much better behaved (although, of course, Adobe products are an exception). Most programs on OS X don't run background updaters, they check for updates when you launch the program and either install them automatically (Chrome) or alert you and let you decide. This is not an inherent strength of OS X, just a consequence of better application design. I'd like to see this design be used more often in Windows programs, and there is no reason why this couldn't happen except for laziness on the part of the application developers.

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