Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 10th Feb 2013 21:07 UTC
Google "No, there's only one area where Android falls really, horribly, undeniably short when it comes to the tablet form factor: The web browser. It's the most fundamental tablet app, IMHO, and yet the web experience on Android could not possibly be worse." This, right here, is it. On my Nexus 7 - there's not a single decent web browser. Not one. The stock browser? Crashes a lot. Chrome? Slow, touch-unfriendly UI, laggy, and locks up all the time. Everything else uses non-standard UIs are, are plain buggy, are also slow, or any combination of the three - and yes, this includes your favourite browser. I've been through them all. Just yesterday I loaded up my iPhone 3GS, and Safari was like a dream. Internet Explorer 10 on Windows Phone 8? Buttery smooth and excellent UI. How Google - a web company - can let this situation persist is beyond me.
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vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26

The stock AOSP Browser and Firefox are both fine on my Nook Color running Cyanogenmod 10. You're doing something horribly wrong if the browser's locking up on better hardware.


Maybe you just have a different definition of "fine". You should compare against the iOS version to calibrate your expectations.

I am running CM10 on Tegra 2; it's okay, but I still note pauses when entering address, occasionally when panning, etc.

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tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

My dad has an iPad 2, and Safari on the iPad is a piece of crap. Really. It scrolls nicely, and has enough marketshare that people have to cater to its quirks just like IE6 a decade ago. Other than that, it is worse than AOSP's Browser in every conceivable way. The UI is too clunky and at the same time doesn't make the tab buttons as accessible as Browser. It's not properly extensible. There's nothing like Adblock. The lack of filesystem access the whole OS retarded, and this is especially true when it comes to the Internet. What's the procedure for downloading a file through Safari on iOS, then downloading an app to handle that file, and then going back to Safari later to find it? On Android and "real" operating systems I just navigate to my downloads directory and tell the file manager or shell to open the file with the new application.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

The UI is too clunky


Your opinion.

and at the same time doesn't make the tab buttons as accessible as Browser.


Um... a button is a button. The tabs in Safari on iOS work pretty much like the ones in Chrome, so I'm not clear what your complaint it.



It's not properly extensible.


It's a mobile browser. Why should it be extensible?

There's nothing like Adblock.


Maybe this is more to do with the sites you visit? I rarely have an issue with this.

The lack of filesystem access the whole OS retarded,


In your opinion.

and this is especially true when it comes to the Internet. What's the procedure for downloading a file through Safari on iOS, then downloading an app to handle that file, and then going back to Safari later to find it?


Well, it depends what you're trying to achieve. Safari will offer to "open in" an app on your device. If there isn't an appropriate one, personally I save it to Dropbox or Google Drive (which normally always pop up.) I then either go to the appstore to find an appropriate app, or realise I'm using a tablet, not a desktop PC, and access the file on my desktop machine later. However, 99% of the time, I'm downloading a file that I know I can already handle, so I just open it in the appropriate app (e.g. PDF - iBooks, Word - Pages, Excel - Numbers, image - Save to camera roll, Zip - Winzip.)

It's also worth noting that other browsers do exist. iCab is excellent for this type of thing, as it has a built in download manager, so you can cut out the "Dropbox/Google Drive" step.

On Android and "real" operating systems I just navigate to my downloads directory and tell the file manager or shell to open the file with the new application.


Which is exactly what you do on iOS is you have any kind of common sense. Just understand that you use the right tool to enable that to happen. I've said this before many times - I regularly read Manga on my iPad, and I do this by downloading a file from a site (usually a zip or rar), renaming the file to have the CBZ/CBR file extension, then I open it in Comicbook Lover. None of this is complex. I use iCab, but that is the only concession I make. It's actually more work to do the same on Android, because I have to manually find the file, rename it and them move it out of the downloads directory.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

My dad has an iPad 2, and Safari on the iPad is a piece of crap. Really. It scrolls nicely, and has enough marketshare that people have to cater to its quirks just like IE6 a decade ago. Other than that, it is worse than AOSP's Browser in every conceivable way. The UI is too clunky and at the same time doesn't make the tab buttons as accessible as Browser. It's not properly extensible. There's nothing like Adblock.

Most of your complaints can be addressed by not using Safari. I also agree that Safari's UI is clunky, especially for something with a tablet-sized screen. My solution: use Atomic web browser. It has file downloading (with dropbox integration if you so desire), desktop-style tabbed browsing, a full adblocker, user-agent spoofing, and all the UI customizations you could want. If you'd rather, you can always use Chrome for iOS. If you want to download anything in a browser that doesn't have a download manager, you simply need an app designed to store files. There are free ones, but my favorite is Air Sharing which is not free. As long as it registers with the open in function for any file type, you simply let Safari download the file. The myth that Safari can't download is just that, a myth. It will download a file just fine, but it won't save files it can't view so you simply hand that file off to another application.
The lack of filesystem access the whole OS retarded, and this is especially true when it comes to the Internet.

I don't see what the filesystem and the internet have to do with one another. If you want remote file managers, there are literally dozens to choose from, both free and otherwise. They all support downloading and various easy ways of moving files on and off the device once downloaded.
What's the procedure for downloading a file through Safari on iOS, then downloading an app to handle that file, and then going back to Safari later to find it? On Android and "real" operating systems I just navigate to my downloads directory and tell the file manager or shell to open the file with the new application.

That's what the open in function is for (see above). I get the feeling you really haven't delved into advanced iOS usage. If you had, you would have known about this and other functions. I, personally, would absolutely love to have full filesystem access but it does not, contrary to popular belief, make most tasks more difficult. You do, however, have to get used to it and there are some cases where it is nowhere near as streamlined as it needs to be.

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