Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 10th Feb 2013 22:18 UTC, submitted by Nth_Man
Hardware, Embedded Systems " bricked a Samsung laptop today. Unlike most of the reported cases of Samsung laptops refusing to boot, I never booted Linux on it - all experimentation was performed under Windows. It seems that the bug we've been seeing is simultaneously simpler in some ways and more complicated in others than we'd previously realised." On a related note, the Linux Foundation's UEFI secure boot system has been released.
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RE[3]: Moral of the story:
by Neolander on Mon 11th Feb 2013 17:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Moral of the story:"
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The quality went a bit down since Lenovo took over.

What do you mean by "a bit" though ? Are we talking about an Acer-ish level of crap, or something that is still very robust, although less than in the IBM days ?

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RE[4]: Moral of the story:
by vaette on Mon 11th Feb 2013 17:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Moral of the story:"
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I think it depends really. If you stick to the X- and T-series Thinkpads you for the most part, it seems to me at least, get an awful lot of quality compared to most competitors. My last laptop was a x121e, which was cheap, plasticy, and had pretty weak hardware, but it was a fantastic work-horse and took a beating without missing a step. I would never have traded it for an ASUS/Acer/LG/Dell at the same price.

Currently I am typing away in the first launch of Mint 14 installed on a brand new X1 Carbon that work assigned me, and it is so far without competition the nicest laptop I have ever seen. It misses out on the great connectivity though (I am one of those people who appreciate the VGA and ethernet and all on the x121e), but it is feather-light while feeling just as solid as an aluminum unibody.

The old IBM thinkpads were all kind of the same, and that same was great, whereas Lenovo makes a lot of rather crummy computers (under slightly different brands such as IdeaPad and Thinkpad Edge), but the quality stuff they make really seems like fantastic quality. To some part I doubt the quality of say the T430 is much worse than it would have been under IBM, but to some part expectations have shifted.

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RE[4]: Moral of the story:
by bassbeast on Wed 13th Feb 2013 21:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Moral of the story:"
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While i'm not him I can tell you what I've seen from Thinkpads coming through the shop which is thus: With IBM there really wasn't much price difference, like Apple it was all pretty much pay through the nose so you expect a certain level of quality when you pay top dollar.

With Lenovo they have all different price points so naturally if you spend say $400 on a Thinkpad its gonna be more plastic and thinner than say an $800 Thinkpad. all in all though I have to say even the plastic models worked well, just don't think you are gonna get a $1400 IBM Thinkpad for $400 and you'll be fine.

so it all depends on what amount you are gonna spend. if it were me and i had a budget of say $450-$550 I would probably look at Asus first as I've had really good luck with asus units at that price point whereas if you are spending $650-$900 you can get a scarily nice Thinkpad for that that will be every bit as good as the Thinkpads of old, just depends on what your price point is really.

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