Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Feb 2013 13:21 UTC
Opera Software De kogel is door de kerk: as we already talked about earlier, Opera is going to switch to the WebKit engine, leaving its own Presto rendering engine behind. We didn't yet know if they would the switch only on mobile or on the desktop as well, and they cleared that up too: both mobile and desktop Opera Browsers will switch to the WebKit rendering engine.
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RE[7]: Comment by ssokolow
by Nelson on Thu 14th Feb 2013 18:43 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by ssokolow"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Silverlight adds an additional layer of indirection to the graphics card API calls.

WebGL is little more than a way to marshal OpenGL calls from the browser to the graphics card through JavaScript.

Silverlight can be disabled, uninstalled, black listed, etc

Silverlight includes protection against 3D driver DOS and even black lists graphics card known to exhibit this problem, putting pressure on graphics card developers.

Does WebGL do anything of the sort? No.

Let's face it, WebGL is a proprietary API brainchild of the Kronos Group who are not a standard setting organization and WebGL is not ubiquitous both in install base or in use on websites, so it is not afforded its standard status through those means either.

This is akin to Microsoft introducing WebDX and claiming it to be a 3D web standard by their own fiat.

And yet, since its not Microsoft, people like you will rush to find a justification, ANY justification for this steaming pile of shit.

It is beyond me how some people can be as egotistic to claim that Microsoft should implement a standard to their web browser, which ships by default on Windows, and thus has an installed base of hundreds of millions of peple, especially when its not a standard at all, and hasn't been properly vetted for security.

People can draw false equivalencies all day about Silverlight and WebGL, but the FACT is that Microsoft has NEVER pushed Silverlight INTO the browser. Its always been a plugin. Microsoft is NOT forcing or lobbying to have Silverlight become a standard of the web.

Stop the bullshit lies.

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RE[8]: Comment by ssokolow
by lucas_maximus on Thu 14th Feb 2013 19:11 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by ssokolow"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Thank-you very much for explaining it better than I could.

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RE[8]: Comment by ssokolow
by PresentIt on Thu 14th Feb 2013 19:41 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by ssokolow"
PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

Actually, WebGL is a standard agreed on by multiple browser vendors, and others.

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RE[8]: Comment by ssokolow
by cdude on Fri 15th Feb 2013 00:24 in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by ssokolow"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Let's face it, WebGL is a proprietary API


Lets face it, WebGL is supported by all browsers except IE :-)


It is beyond me how some people can be as egotistic to claim that Microsoft should implement a standard to their web browser


Yes, we got the memo. Microsoft isn't implementing common standards but are defining there incompatible uncommon own ones. Interoperability is bad for vendor-lockin. We know.


FACT is that Microsoft has NEVER pushed Silverlight INTO the browser. Its always been a plugin. Microsoft is NOT forcing or lobbying to have Silverlight become a standard of the web.


Yes, otherwise Silverlight would need to become interoperable between browsers and platforms and that goes against the plan. We know. We know.

Nelson, we again agree on something!

Edited 2013-02-15 00:28 UTC

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RE[9]: Comment by ssokolow
by Nelson on Fri 15th Feb 2013 00:31 in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by ssokolow"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Everything needed to implement Silverlight is provided by Microsoft.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. In fact, Moonlight did a great job of implementing Silverlight.

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