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Windows "Imagine a phone that could run real Remote Desktop. Real PowerShell. Anything that can run on your desktop PC. Imagine 'phablet' form factors, similar to today's Samsung Galaxy Note 2, which could dock to a desktop setup and utilize an external display, keyboard, mouse, and other peripherals. Imagine a single set of APIs that work everywhere. Imagine that Phone isn't a whole separate platform, but an app. An app that runs on Windows. Real Windows. The Windows Phone team could never make that happen. But the Windows client team? You betcha. Make it happen, Microsoft. It's time to take the phone seriously." I have never agreed with Thurrot as much as I do right now.
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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by bassbeast on Thu 14th Feb 2013 20:18 UTC in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
bassbeast
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And I have a question: WHY should we want "one device to rule them all" when we've seen time and time again these companies do NOT have any interests but their own at heart?

I mean as it is now I can have an Asus laptop, custom built desktop, Samsung phone, and no name tablet and if any of the above treats me bad or gives me lousy service i can go elsewhere with minimum of fuss. Know how hard that would be if I had everything counting on just a single device?

Lets face it the ones ones really pushing for this are frankly greedy corps who i honestly couldn't care less what they want. Is your phone so heavy you can't lift it and a laptop or tablet? Then why would you want to limit yourself like that? iFixit just labeled the Surface pro virtually unrepairable and gave it a worse score than even the ipad...we supposed to want everything tied to a company that tries to make X86 into a throw away tech?

Personally I'm just sick of it. I'm sick of everybody saying the only thing that counts is cellphones because OS corps make a mint off of stupid 99c games on the things and their disposable nature, I'm sick of crap like the Surface that try to be jacks of all trades and end up masters of none, I'm sick of a swooning press that seems to want nothing more than a single device because apprently having more than one is too hard for their wittle bitty press brains, I'm sick of being told the future is a device that is worse in every way, from freedom to choice to fixability, than what we have now.

I'm just sick of it and if the future is one device to rule them all you can let me off here, thanks anyway. Oh and try not to forget the last line of the one ring since everyone keeps stealing the "one device to rule them all" bit which was "and in darkness bind them" which is quite apt when you are talking about ever more centralized control and disposable devices that cost like durable goods.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Thu 14th Feb 2013 20:36 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Regarding the non-repairability of tablets:

You have warranty. When that expires and the tablet breaks down it will probably be already obsolete or on the verge of becoming so. Should it be possible to have it repaired the costs tend to be too high compared to buying a new tablet.

Yes, it sucks when a device that used to work fine has to be thrown away instead of having it fixed, but it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money on it getting it fixed when for a few dollars more you have a brand new device that is better in every way.

This applies to tablets and phones. Laptops and certainly desktops are easier to repair and the costs are more likely to be more worth it than buying a new one. A desktop you can often repair yourself.

I guess it's something you have to take in to account when buying a tablet or phone. Be prepared that the device will only work for the warranty period and after it probably has to be trashed once it breaks down.

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by bassbeast on Thu 14th Feb 2013 22:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

In case you ain't noticed friend the trend with warranties are going down down DOWN so that you pay all this money and are lucky if you get a 1 year warranty on the thing. Once upon a time many things had 3 year warranties, heck hard drives even had 5 year warranties, now unless you pay out the nose you are getting a lousy year which when we are talking about devices that cost upwards of a grand in some cases is just pathetic.

And sadly friend its getting to the point that laptops are more like phones than desktops, I have a pile of laptops that most likely will be going in the garbage because the cost of parts will be more than you can ever get off selling the thing. This push for disposable devices is not being followed with the major drop in price that one would expect from disposable devices and we shouldn't put up with it, 1 year warranties on high ticket items is an insult!

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Sun 17th Feb 2013 16:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

You have warranty. When that expires and the tablet breaks down it will probably be already obsolete or on the verge of becoming so.

OTOH phones and tablets seem to be quickly approaching "good enough" like PCs did a few years ago - more recent models will be able to longer remain useful. Reliability (or good warranty) will become ever more important, in a way.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Sun 17th Feb 2013 16:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

And I have a question: WHY should we want "one device to rule them all" when we've seen time and time again these companies do NOT have any interests but their own at heart?
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Lets face it the ones ones really pushing for this are frankly greedy corps who i honestly couldn't care less what they want.
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I'm just sick of it

But don't you also have a hidden agenda, why you're against "post PC" future? IIRC, don't you run a small PC shop? ;)

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