Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Feb 2013 09:34 UTC
Games "We're told by someone with access to the NPD's data that sales for January were 'well under' 100,000 units. By our estimates, sales were somewhere between 45,000 and 59,000 units for the month, which is lower than any of the three previous-generation home consoles sold in their worst months, with the possible exception of a recent performance by the original Wii." This doesn't surprise me. I've always wondered: who's the Wii U for? Casual Wii buyers - which comprise most of the Wii owners, I'd guess - have little reason to upgrade, and hardcore Nintendo fans are waiting for the next re-releases of Mario and Zelda from the Nintendo Game-o-tron. Until then, who's going to buy this thing?
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it will save the market
by alko on Fri 15th Feb 2013 10:42 UTC
alko
Member since:
2010-01-31

Being original is good.

like wii, ds and 3ds Nintendo consoles are always not well received buy customers at the very first start.
they are not conventional...
they use very exotic hardware that take time to be mastered.
also they put efficency in first place so only the best developers in world could get the maximum from the hardware.
but like the 3ds is saving the market also wiiu will show how innovative games could be done by the best developers out there.
average developers will make party games using the tablet only for menus...but simply dont buy such games...

being ps4 and xbox 3 based on pc cpus and only partially customized gpus, Nintendo will remain the only one having a real dedicated hardware for gaming...

apple???
Pippin showed already how they are not good as console makers...

in the meantime you can "play" with the fantastic google street app developed by google exclusively for the wiiu...
;)

Edited 2013-02-15 10:43 UTC

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RE: it will save the market
by cyrilleberger on Fri 15th Feb 2013 13:01 in reply to "it will save the market"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

like wii, ds and 3ds Nintendo consoles are always not well received buy customers at the very first start.


Are you kidding the Wii was huge success from the very beginning, after two months and half, it had reached 4.5m sold units (worldwide), against 2.5 for the wii (source: vgchartz). It was the most successful launch for a game console. The DS was at 3.3m after two months and half in sale only in Japan, the 3DS 2.5m, with only one month between Japan and worldwide release. DS and WII were very hot success right from the beginning.

But both DS and the Wii brought something desirable for the consumers, DS was the only way to get portable gaming at the time, 3DS is now competing with smartphones, which have a strong impact on sales. Wii came with something truly brilliant, the wiimote, and the promise of a new way to play. That is the wiimote that made the Wii so successful. While the WiiU does not have anything of value, compared to the competition, it has roughly equivalent spec to the PS3 and the XBox360, for roughly the same price, with almost no game available. Oh and it has a new controller with a screen on it, but I have yet to see a good use for that, or at least, an use that would make people think they really need the WiiU.

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andrewclunn Member since:
2012-11-05

While the WiiU does not have anything of value, compared to the competition, it has roughly equivalent spec to the PS3 and the XBox360.


Umm, what? Half a gig of ram vs 8 gis. A six year old R520 based graphics processor compared to a heavily modified R700. What are you talking about?

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RE[2]: it will save the market
by alko on Fri 15th Feb 2013 16:15 in reply to "RE: it will save the market"
alko Member since:
2010-01-31

history repeats,
you are like those that in the past hate the ds preferring the psp or the wii preferring the ps3...

wiiU has introduced a new way of gaming that is asymettric gameplay.

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RE[2]: it will save the market
by WorknMan on Fri 15th Feb 2013 21:04 in reply to "RE: it will save the market"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

3DS is now competing with smartphones, which have a strong impact on sales.


Really? Last I checked, the 3DS was outselling the DS thus far in its life cycle. Phones don't even come close to scratching the same itch that the 3DS does. Not saying that one is better than the other, but there's definitely room for both. When I'm in the mood for something a little 'meatier' than Temple Run or Super Hexagon, that's what my 3DS is for.

While the WiiU does not have anything of value, compared to the competition, it has roughly equivalent spec to the PS3 and the XBox360, for roughly the same price, with almost no game available. Oh and it has a new controller with a screen on it, but I have yet to see a good use for that, or at least, an use that would make people think they really need the WiiU.


Are you married? I'm not, but I have a few friends that are, and they LOVE the Wii U screen, because they can now game in the living room without monopolizing the TV. Some of them, who are hardcore Nintendo fanboys, are convinced that this is what is going to make the Wii U rule this gen... millions of fathers and husbands in the same position they are. I have my doubts, but I give them the benefit of the doubt, because for all the times people have been predicting doom and gloom for Nintendo, they always seem to find ways to print money. They are a lot like Apple that way ;)

Edited 2013-02-15 21:05 UTC

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RE: it will save the market
by atsureki on Sat 16th Feb 2013 08:26 in reply to "it will save the market"
atsureki Member since:
2006-03-12

they use very exotic hardware that take time to be mastered.
also they put efficency in first place so only the best developers in world could get the maximum from the hardware.

being ps4 and xbox 3 based on pc cpus and only partially customized gpus, Nintendo will remain the only one having a real dedicated hardware for gaming...


These statements are ambiguous are seem to conflate architecture with periphery. Nintendo is very conservative on the architecture level and does all its experimenting on the control and display front. Kinect is as unconventional as anything Nintendo is doing, while the PS3 is the real mutant under the hood, which also makes it the greatest challenge to skilled developers, much like the Saturn and Jaguar were in their day (those things were both mismatched clusters of oddball processors).

apple???
Pippin showed already how they are not good as console makers...


Now you're just living in the past. You might as well say iPhone will fail as a gaming device because N-Gage proved phone+games doesn't work and Game.com proved games+Internet doesn't work. It's a different world now, and the products in it are much better.

I've read reviews that the UX of the WiiU is just terrible, with incredibly long load times, so I hope that's significantly hurting sales as general crappiness rightly should. On the same token, I hope Nintendo fixes its firmware problems and is rewarded with improved sales thereafter.

But whatever Nintendo does next, Apple owns a huge chunk, if not the biggest chunk, of the present and foreseeable future of gaming. Granted Apple's success and Nintendo's are not mutually exclusive, but iOS and Android are extremely capable with much lower software prices, and the iPad captures more collective techlust and toy appeal than a new generation of settop console refreshes. Combine that with Windows 8's general unfriendliness to Steam and traditional aftermarket software, and you have a perfect storm that will have massive repercussions on the base or "hardcore" gaming industry for some time. The failed launches of both PSVita and WiiU are partly to blame on flaws of the product itself, but I believe they're also symptomatic of a larger change that will significantly hinder the next Playstation and Xbox as well, regardless of their ultimate quality.

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