Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Feb 2013 22:28 UTC, submitted by bowkota
In the News "The last time we looked at Silicon Valley's lobbying efforts, Google was the big spender and Apple the piker. That hasn't changed much in the past nine months. In fact, Google increased its political spending in 2012 - a Presidential election year - by nearly 90%, while Apple reduced its by 13%." Anti-SOPA or no, that's a hell of a lot of money. This should be illegal - it's thinly veiled corruption.
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Corruption
by bowkota on Mon 18th Feb 2013 23:16 UTC
bowkota
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This should be illegal - it's thinly veiled corruption.

It pretty much is
Here's the definition on Wikipedia.

Lobbying (also lobby) is the act of attempting to influence decisions made by officials in the government, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies

If that isn't a form of corruption then I don't know what is. The only upside to this is that it's a bit more open than the alternative. There's very detailed info on opensecrets.org.

Furthermore, quite a few of these tech companies spend money for the advancement of science and technology (obviously because it's in their interest but it's still a positive outcome).

Edited 2013-02-18 23:17 UTC

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RE: Corruption
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 18th Feb 2013 23:25 in reply to "Corruption"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No corruption is actually buying their votes. Lobbying ( if done in a legal manner) is just supposed to be arguing for a policy position with only the carrot/stick of re-election. It is a bit unfair, in that the wealthy are heard much louder than those without the means.

Real corruption is more quid pro quo. Hey, you! Vote my way and I'll drop an envelop of unmarked bills on your doorstep.

Sadly, that's only slightly worse than what is really legal now. Hey, you! vote my way and I'll set up a super pac to support your next election, fueled by unlimited cash to make up slanderous claims against your opponent! Its really citizens united that needs to be repealed more than anything else right now.

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RE[2]: Corruption
by kwan_e on Tue 19th Feb 2013 01:37 in reply to "RE: Corruption"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

No corruption is actually buying their votes. Lobbying ( if done in a legal manner) is just supposed to be arguing for a policy position with only the carrot/stick of re-election. It is a bit unfair, in that the wealthy are heard much louder than those without the means.

Real corruption is more quid pro quo.


As a society, we should be evolving towards better government, which means raising the standard for what is considered "uncorrupted".

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RE[2]: Corruption
by l3v1 on Tue 19th Feb 2013 10:09 in reply to "RE: Corruption"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

arguing for a policy


Yeah, I don't think they originally intended arguing to mean that the argument with the more money backing should win.

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RE: Corruption
by twitterfire on Tue 19th Feb 2013 14:38 in reply to "Corruption"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11


If that isn't a form of corruption then I don't know what is.


In US spending money to influence politicians and government officials is lobbying and legal. In EU the same thing is illegal and called corruption.

It might be just a small cultural difference. ;)

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RE[2]: Corruption
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 15:37 in reply to "RE: Corruption"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

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If that isn't a form of corruption then I don't know what is.


In US spending money to influence politicians and government officials is lobbying and legal. In EU the same thing is illegal and called corruption.

It might be just a small cultural difference. ;)
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If you honestly believe that there aren't any lobbyists in the EU, then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you... no cheques, cash only.

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RE: Corruption
by twitterfire on Tue 19th Feb 2013 14:40 in reply to "Corruption"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11


Furthermore, quite a few of these tech companies spend money for the advancement of science and technology (obviously because it's in their interest but it's still a positive outcome).


How much money did Apple, the biggest "tech" company spent for the advancement of science and technology?

Or should we call Apple a "design" company, a "fake patent" company and not a "tech" company?

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RE[2]: Corruption
by bowkota on Tue 19th Feb 2013 17:11 in reply to "RE: Corruption"
bowkota Member since:
2011-10-12

"
Furthermore, quite a few of these tech companies spend money for the advancement of science and technology (obviously because it's in their interest but it's still a positive outcome).


How much money did Apple, the biggest "tech" company spent for the advancement of science and technology?

Or should we call Apple a "design" company, a "fake patent" company and not a "tech" company?
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I'm sorry but if you're arguing that Apple hasn't done anything for the advancement of science and tech than you're just as stupid as anyone who would argue the same for Google.

Just look at the original story linked, there's plenty of reasonable examples there.

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