Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Feb 2013 21:18 UTC
Microsoft "Although Bill Gates stepped away from his day-to-day role at Microsoft nearly five years ago, he still keeps a close eye on the company he co-founded - and he isn't always happy with what he sees. During a recent interview broadcast this morning on CBS This Morning, the Microsoft chairman was asked by Charlie Rose whether he was happy with Steve Ballmer's performance as chief executive. Noting that there have been 'many amazing things' accomplished under Ballmer's leadership in the past couple of years, Gates said he was not satisfied with the company's innovations." It's impossible to deny by this point that Microsoft hasn't done well in mobile. It would be more surprising if Gates had denied it.
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RE[5]: integration
by Nelson on Tue 19th Feb 2013 19:12 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: integration"
Nelson
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2005-11-29

This is basically what happened with XNA:

- XNA comes out. Its better than MDX (Managed DX) but its pretty much panned for being weird and not as pretty as it could be. Remember, XNA came out I think a little bit prior to .NET3 coming out. I was actually wrong before, it was annoying to use on VS2005, 2008, and 2010. I hate their damn customized IDE.

- XNA stagnates with not many fixes or advances. Some bones are thrown to us devs here and there. XBLIG placement is still awkward, the Creators Club was terrible and the approval process took fucking forever.

- A lot of time passes.

- Microsoft takes XNA away from us in Windows 8 and WP8. Developers seemingly forgot how much they hated XNA because they got so used to it, but are now up in arms.

It was never a good framework at all. If Microsoft dropped it I hope it is because they're working on something better.

Xbox needs an app store. Maybe this will all tie into that. Hopefully. Xbox has the potential to disrupt gaming and do for games what the phone app stores did for normal software development: Democratize it.

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RE[6]: integration
by Laurence on Wed 20th Feb 2013 00:42 in reply to "RE[5]: integration"
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2007-03-26


Xbox needs an app store. Maybe this will all tie into that. Hopefully. Xbox has the potential to disrupt gaming and do for games what the phone app stores did for normal software development: Democratize it.

It wouldn't be much of a disruption as Microsoft have already been beaten to that goal at least twice before:

* Nintendo already did that on the Wii. Not just for professional games either, but home brew as well.

* The Dreamcast also did this, but to a far less sophisticated level (but back then the vast majority of people were still on dial up, so the DC still deserves some kudos)

I will grant you that the Dreamcast (as awesome as it was), didn't take off, and the Wii isn't really a "gamers console", but even so, it's already been done.

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RE[7]: integration
by Nelson on Wed 20th Feb 2013 01:01 in reply to "RE[6]: integration"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Sure, but this isn't really about "Firsts" its about who executes it well.

The fact that I didn't even know this was true about Wii should say a lot. Its a great idea, I just think it needs something on a grand sale.

Imagine writing a Windows Store app and having it work across Windows Phone, Windows, and Xbox with minimal changes and a streamlined unified submission and commerce system.

That'd be a disruption. Look at how other phones did touch prior to the iPhone, but it took the iPhone to radically change the direction of the consumer smartphone market.

Another example is Danger with the Sidekicks. (and before someone points it out Linux distros and other OSes had repositories which still are great) With Sidekicks they had an App store of sorts prior to Apple but it really took Apple to set the framework for how most app stores will be run in the future.

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RE[7]: integration
by zima on Sat 23rd Feb 2013 13:37 in reply to "RE[6]: integration"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

>Xbox needs an app store. Maybe this will all tie into that. Hopefully. Xbox has the potential to disrupt gaming and do for games what the phone app stores did for normal software development: Democratize it.
It wouldn't be much of a disruption as Microsoft have already been beaten to that goal at least twice before:

* Nintendo already did that on the Wii. Not just for professional games either, but home brew as well.

* The Dreamcast also did this, but to a far less sophisticated level (but back then the vast majority of people were still on dial up, so the DC still deserves some kudos)

I will grant you that the Dreamcast (as awesome as it was), didn't take off, and the Wii isn't really a "gamers console", but even so, it's already been done.

I don't recall anything like that for the Dreamcast ...was it for software running on its memory cards? Japan-only?

And Nintendo is notoriously unfriendly to indies...

Either way, it would still be a disruption, when on the scale of likely future Xbox ecosystem.

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