Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Feb 2013 09:04 UTC
Apple John Gruber illustrates the dangers of not having a clue about history: "The utter simplicity of the iOS home screen is Apple's innovation. It's the simplest, most obvious 'system' ever designed." Thanks for playing.
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What a coincidence!?
by Shkaba on Wed 20th Feb 2013 17:34 UTC
Shkaba
Member since:
2006-06-22

I had just gotten a Nexus 4 and had to give it up (boss wanted it) so while I am awaiting for another one to make its way I have to use a spare iphone 4s. There is only one word to describe ios: CLUTTER. Utter and complete mess of the home screen. And you have to spend a good deal of time to make it usable (as per my specs). It definitively is not a device for me. I want to have a clean and empty home screen with very few shortcuts (phone, email, messaging and maybe time). Everything else should be tucked away in an organized location. Remember everyone complaining about bloatware in windows? ios reminded me of that. Disgusting!

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RE: What a coincidence!?
by henderson101 on Thu 21st Feb 2013 16:10 in reply to "What a coincidence!?"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

By default (as in Factory fresh) there are only about 17 icons on the home screen. All of which are easily movable. Lets compare to Android 4.2: Every app installed ends up with 2 icons (one on the desktop, on in the app tray) and deleting the icon from the desktop doesn't delete the app from the device (or even ask if that is what you meant.) That's fine if you understand that's the way it works, but not if you are a novice (or plain stupid as some other commenters have implied they are when it comes to iOS.)

Let's then look at the app tray... how is that is any kind of order by default? New apps seem to randomly appear in the list (is it sorted in some specific order? I don't know, I've never really taken time to look). Can you sort the icons? (Never tried.) It's extremely unwieldy and confusing. Even the UI on the Skinned Android Samsung devices my kids have does a better job of arranging the installed apps that stock Android.

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RE[2]: What a coincidence!?
by Shkaba on Thu 21st Feb 2013 16:52 in reply to "RE: What a coincidence!?"
Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

By default (as in Factory fresh) there are only about 17 icons on the home screen. All of which are easily movable.

17 is way too much! Like I stated I prefer to have only shortcuts for core functions (phone, email, messaging). As for easily movable ... easy movable where? on another home screen? Is that your idea of clean and organized ... it is not to me. Creating folders just to get rid of that mess worked to some extend but not for all of them (f... newstand! not only you can't get rid of it, it has an ugly icon, too)

Lets compare to Android 4.2: Every app installed ends up with 2 icons (one on the desktop, on in the app tray) and deleting the icon from the desktop doesn't delete the app from the device (or even ask if that is what you meant.) That's fine if you understand that's the way it works, but not if you are a novice (or plain stupid as some other commenters have implied they are when it comes to iOS.)


Strange, but to me that is exactly how it should be. Very similar to notions that have been established in PC-s. Desktop shortcuts are, well ....shortcuts to the app and not the app itself. Everything else is confusing.

Let's then look at the app tray... how is that is any kind of order by default? New apps seem to randomly appear in the list (is it sorted in some specific order? I don't know, I've never really taken time to look). Can you sort the icons? (Never tried.) It's extremely unwieldy and confusing. Even the UI on the Skinned Android Samsung devices my kids have does a better job of arranging the installed apps that stock Android.


I guess I will this one to you to figure out, just like I had to waste couple of hours to get to somewhat clean home screen on my temp iphone.

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RE[2]: What a coincidence!?
by phoenix on Thu 21st Feb 2013 18:26 in reply to "RE: What a coincidence!?"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

By default (as in Factory fresh) there are only about 17 icons on the home screen. All of which are easily movable.


Stock Android 4.2 has less than 10 icons on the home screen, and 5 of those are in the dock so appear on every screen.

Lets compare to Android 4.2: Every app installed ends up with 2 icons


Nope. Every app has 1 icon, in the app drawer. You have the option of copying icons from there to whichever home screen you want. Or, you can just leave them all in the app drawer and have blank home screens.

icon from the desktop doesn't delete the app from the device (or even ask if that is what you meant.)


Depends on the launcher. For example, a long-press of a home screen icon in Go Launcher Ex gives you the option to:
- change the icon
- delete the icon from the home screen
- uninstall the app

Let's then look at the app tray... how is that is any kind of order by default?


Alphabetical by default. Again, depending on the Launcher used, you can change the sort order, choosing between options like:
- alphabetical
- order installed (newest first)
- order installed (oldest first)
- most often used first

New apps seem to randomly appear in the list (is it sorted in some specific order?


New apps either appear in the list according to the sort order you selected, or at the very end of the list. Either way, they get a "new" badge attached so you can find them right away.

It's extremely unwieldy and confusing.


Seriously? You find an alphabetical list of icons (Android) to be confusing, but a random listing of icons (iOS) to be sublime?

Even the UI on the Skinned Android Samsung devices my kids have does a better job of arranging the installed apps that stock Android.


Me thinks you haven't actually used Stock Android 4.2.

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