Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Feb 2013 09:04 UTC
Apple John Gruber illustrates the dangers of not having a clue about history: "The utter simplicity of the iOS home screen is Apple's innovation. It's the simplest, most obvious 'system' ever designed." Thanks for playing.
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RE[3]: What a coincidence!?
by henderson101 on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 16:03 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What a coincidence!?"
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"By default (as in Factory fresh) there are only about 17 icons on the home screen. All of which are easily movable.

Stock Android 4.2 has less than 10 icons on the home screen, and 5 of those are in the dock so appear on every screen.

As well as a load of giant widgets.

" Lets compare to Android 4.2: Every app installed ends up with 2 icons

Nope. Every app has 1 icon, in the app drawer. You have the option of copying icons from there to whichever home screen you want. Or, you can just leave them all in the app drawer and have blank home screens.

No, sorry - that is incorrect. If one installs an app using the Play store, one gets one icon on the Desktop and one icon in the app list/tray. This is on a Nexus 7, up to date, running 4.2.Whatever the current release is. It updated about a week or so ago.

"icon from the desktop doesn't delete the app from the device (or even ask if that is what you meant.)

Depends on the launcher.

The stock Android launcher. You understand we are talking about *stock* Android, right? ;-)

For example, a {..delete pointless babble about non-Stock launchers..}

Please read and understand the complaint before replying.

"Let's then look at the app tray... how is that is any kind of order by default?

Alphabetical by default. {..deleted rambling mutterings about non-stock launchers...}

I might actually look tonight. I know that as a casual user who didn't really pay much attention, it wasn't the order I was expecting (installation order), nor did it make much sense. I'll admit I really didn't bother looking in to it any further and just accepted that I'd need to scan through the icons to find the app I was looking for. Because, really, I work that way - I look for the icon, I don't read the text on every app. I think that might just be the way my brain works (visual images are more important than words.)

Either way, they get a "new" badge attached so you can find them right away.

On the stock 4.2 that is installed on the Nexus 7? Now I know you have never used a Nexus 7. This does *not* happen, you don't gat any kind of indication that the app is "new" (unless that happened in the very last update, as I'm pretty sure I've not installed anything since then.) It does, however, happen in iOS 6.0 though.

Seriously? You find an alphabetical list of icons (Android) to be confusing, but a random listing of icons (iOS) to be sublime?

Yes. Because iOS shows the apps in order of installation (if you let the screens naturally fill up) or at the next gap in your "home screens". Again, I look for the icon, not the name of the app (being visually orientated, not textually orientated), so why would alphabetical be of any use to me? Also, in all versions of iOS up to 6.0, the app store closed at point of installation, and zoomed to the page with the new app. This would have a progress bar as part of the install process. It made it bloody obvious what was going on. Now in 6.x, the app downloads inside the app store app as well as on the home screens, and the app store doesn't close. But then each new app has a "new" badge on the home screen till first launch and the app store has an "open" button when the install has completed, so again, it's not exactly rocket science.

"Even the UI on the Skinned Android Samsung devices my kids have does a better job of arranging the installed apps that stock Android.

Me thinks you haven't actually used Stock Android 4.2.

Yes I have. It's well documented that I own a Nexus 7 on these forums, go ahead and search if you want proof. It's got a lot better with the last release or two, but it can still be really unstable (mine has rebooted twice randomly since the last update, usually when my kids had left a lot of apps running in their accounts) and so I still only really use it for Youtube and brief web browsing. My kids use it more than me (and now they all have their own accounts on it, so I don't need to worry as much about them messing with my account.) So, nope, wrong. If your phone/tables running is running a stock Android (as supplied directly from Google, with no enhancements or changes) has the extra features you claim with the stock install and launcher - lucky you, but it only goes to prove that a constant user experience is not given across all Android devices, even running stock images supplied by Google directly.

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