Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2013 21:31 UTC
Apple Well paint me red and call me a girl scout. "In its latest push to get porn off your computer, Apple now deletes all iCloud emails that contain the phrase 'barely legal teens'. It doesn't send the messages to spam, or flag them, it just straight up deletes them, and there's nothing you can do about it." So, at least we can finally put that silly myth to rest that Apple respects users' privacy. They scan your emails, including attachments, just like everyone else.
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RE: Talk about a strawman
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2013 22:43 UTC in reply to "Talk about a strawman"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Of course it has to do with privacy. Apple fans' logic never ceases to amaze me.

Google has automated bots scanning your emails for targeted ads so you don't see irrelevant crap: PRIVACY ISSUE.

Apple has automated bots reading your emails to delete what it believes does not adhere to US puritanical views: NOPE, NOT A PRIVACY ISSUE YOU GUYS.

The world is crazy.

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RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by boscorillium on Tue 26th Feb 2013 22:51 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
boscorillium Member since:
2013-02-26

Agreed, it seems like in both cases you can easily argue there is a privacy issue. Which one bothers you more is of course dependant on what camp you are in.

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RE[3]: Talk about a strawman
by WorknMan on Tue 26th Feb 2013 23:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about a strawman"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Agreed, it seems like in both cases you can easily argue there is a privacy issue. Which one bothers you more is of course dependant on what camp you are in.


I don't get very many emails that say 'barely legal teens' that aren't spam, so as far as I'm concerned, Apple would be doing me a favor ;) Would be curious to see what else they're deleting.

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v RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by leos on Wed 27th Feb 2013 06:10 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
RE[3]: Talk about a strawman
by franksands on Wed 27th Feb 2013 14:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about a strawman"
franksands Member since:
2009-08-18

SO you think it's a good thing Apple deletes any email containing the phrase "barely legal teens"? This is not spam filtering, it's deleting messages without asking you . What if it was an important email from a relative saying something like "Can you take me to the hospital tomorrow? Since my children are barely legal teens, they can't drive."

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RE[2]: Talk about a strawman
by siraf72 on Wed 27th Feb 2013 18:04 in reply to "RE: Talk about a strawman"
siraf72 Member since:
2006-02-22

Of course it has to do with privacy. Apple fans' logic never ceases to amaze me.

Google has automated bots scanning your emails for targeted ads so you don't see irrelevant crap: PRIVACY ISSUE.

Apple has automated bots reading your emails to delete what it believes does not adhere to US puritanical views: NOPE, NOT A PRIVACY ISSUE YOU GUYS.

The world is crazy.


Your logic is consistent, no doubt. From a purely privacy perspective you are right. But at a practical level there is a world of difference. I don't buy the "slippery slope" argument in this case when it comes to privacy. Google's history about user privacy is still far more suspect (time and time again). Apple's goal here seems pretty clear. I have no problem with their goal in this instance.

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RE[3]: Talk about a strawman
by franksands on Wed 27th Feb 2013 18:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Talk about a strawman"
franksands Member since:
2009-08-18

Google has always been upfront with what kind of information it uses, and recently cam to great lengths of explaining how to get your information out of their systems. What other company does that?

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