Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Feb 2013 22:42 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Firefox OS could actually be wildly successful, no matter how underwhelming the actual phones may be. And that's because - at least for now - you're not the customer; your carrier is." I'm extremely disappointed by Firefox OS so far. There's nothing wrong with the low-end hardware we've seen during MWC, but there is something wrong with low-end hardware that can't even properly run its operating system. To make matters worse, carriers are the boss here. Terrible first impression.
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by kragil on Wed 27th Feb 2013 23:13 UTC
kragil
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2006-01-04

The Alcatel one seems very alpha, but the ZTE and Geeksphone ones look OK for the price:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/24/zte-open-hands-on/

These things are build to be maximum cheap, 256mb RAM, single core, 512MB storage + SDcard, no patent payments to Apple or Microsoft AFAICS etc

And if Mozilla keeps its promise you will be able to buy apps from anywhere and the phones can be rooted. So no lockin and carriers become dumb pipes.

Does not sound too bad to me (I won't buy one though)

Edited 2013-02-27 23:15 UTC

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RE: ? mistaken ?
by hackbod on Thu 28th Feb 2013 01:11 in reply to "? mistaken ?"
hackbod Member since:
2006-02-15

no patent payments to Apple or Microsoft AFAICS etc


The only reasons patents wouldn't be an issue is because it isn't popular enough to be in anyone's sights. If it ever does become a concern to them, you can be sure they will be finding appropriate patents that they can claim are being infringed.

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by Neolander on Thu 28th Feb 2013 06:21 in reply to "? mistaken ?"
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2010-03-08

These things are build to be maximum cheap, 256mb RAM, single core, 512MB storage + SDcard, no patent payments to Apple or Microsoft AFAICS etc

If it uses an SD card, it is already in a patent minefield, since complying with the SD standard apparently requires using the FAT32 and exFAT filesystems.

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by Lobotomik on Thu 28th Feb 2013 08:50 in reply to "RE: ? mistaken ?"
Lobotomik Member since:
2006-01-03

The FAT32 patent was gutted, and exfat is not necessary, in fact almost no devices support it yet (that's why you generally see the 32GB size limit).

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by pashar on Thu 28th Feb 2013 13:07 in reply to "RE: ? mistaken ?"
pashar Member since:
2006-07-12

SD itself is a patented technology. Of course, FAT32/exFAT add additional costs.

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RE: ? mistaken ?
by darknexus on Thu 28th Feb 2013 15:30 in reply to "? mistaken ?"
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2008-07-15

These things are build to be maximum cheap, 256mb RAM, single core, 512MB storage + SDcard, no patent payments to Apple or Microsoft AFAICS etc

So then, I take it, they're not going to support fat32-formatted sd cards on the grounds of not paying for Microsoft patents? That'll really make the Windows users happy. ;)

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by kragil on Thu 28th Feb 2013 17:40 in reply to "RE: ? mistaken ?"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Well, technically they could just support SD-Cards and just format them with EXT4 or something and use them then.
For third world market that might make some sense, for western makets they should come with more build in storage and omit the SD-card slot.

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